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Old 14-01-2015, 12:09   #1
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Gemini now a Catalina

I saw yesterday a blurb that Gemini Legacy 35 is no longer made by Hunter - they dissolved their partnership arrangement and started one with Catalina late last year.

Good, bad, or makes no difference?
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Link to said article?
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Old 14-01-2015, 13:24   #4
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Hunter (Marlow) and Catalina were/are being hired to manufacture the Gemini to Gemini's specs and design. It is really made by Gemini, not them. Manta/Endeavor used to have a similar relationship.

Gemini got a better price to switch to Catalina, which makes one wonder about a boat where Hunter backs out of a race to the bottom…

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Old 14-01-2015, 13:34   #5
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Re: Gemini now a Catalina

I suppose that Catalina might have had some drop in sales that opened up some manufacturing time/space that needed filling. Who knows?

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Re: Gemini now a Catalina

Here is hoping Catalina can resolve hull flexing that leaves spider cracks covering every Gemini topside...otherwise its a viable boat I would seriously consider!
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Re: Gemini now a Catalina

I believe this is the same manufacturing location in Largo, Florida on Bryan Dairy Rd. where they were once making Morgans in the 1970's, -like mine.
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I believe this is the same manufacturing location in Largo, Florida on Bryan Dairy Rd. where they were once making Morgans in the 1970's, -like mine.
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Couldn't be a worse design. Not sure what difference the builder would make?
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Here is hoping Catalina can resolve hull flexing that leaves spider cracks covering every Gemini topside...otherwise its a viable boat I would seriously consider!
Really?

Checkout the bridge deck clearance and the 7-lines-to-one-winch deal. The 105MC I see merit in, but the Legacy was simple mistake made for the charter market.


Look at the clearance, light ship, no dingy on the davits.


And all of these to a winch only the helmsman can reach:

  • Genoa sheet
  • Main halyard
  • Genoa halyard
  • Spinnaker sheet
  • Reef 1
  • Reef 2
  • Furler
  • Vang (needed--note the short traveler)
Love the engine access (the other side is worse)



I could go on...

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And all of these to a winch only the helmsman can reach:
[LIST][*]Genoa sheet[*]Main halyard[*]Genoa halyard[*]Spinnaker sheet[*]Reef 1[*]Reef 2[*]Furler[*]Vang (needed--note the short traveler)
We have all of our lines (seven) coming back to a single winch only the helmsman can reach.

It works perfectly and we wouldn't want it any other way.

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We have all of our lines (seven) coming back to a single winch only the helmsman can reach.

It works perfectly and we wouldn't want it any other way.

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Never trimmers?

Never control sheets while furling in a breeze?

Never trim the sheets while hoisting a chute?

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Re: Gemini now a Catalina

I talked with a rep at the Annapolis Boat Show. He was encouraged that the gelcoat would be better finished.

Personally, I like the pre-hunters better. I would love that boat with twin outboards in wells under the stern steps.
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Re: Gemini now a Catalina

When I spoke to then at the Miami boat show the rep said all that was changing this year was they were going to solid wood interior.

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Never trimmers?

Yes, the person at the helm trims. No other person is necessary.

Never control sheets while furling in a breeze?

Hank on headsail, but don't see the problem controlling the sheets if it was a furled one.

Never trim the sheets while hoisting a chute?

The furler code zero sheets lead to a separate winch dedicated to it, so that one isn't included at the helm. However, I don't think it is on the Gemini either.

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Not astonishing - highly convenient, usable and practical. It is very nice in the middle of the night to not have to wake the other person to do something as basic as putting a reef in the sail, or tack, or lower the sails for a squall, or raise the sails after a squall, etc.

We have an electric winch also - you can go off on that too, it won't bother me!

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