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Old 09-01-2008, 17:04   #1
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We'll be at the boatshow looking at all the cats again. Finally getting close to selling off all the real estate, etc.. Have some property on the bay near Gulf Shores and heading for living aboard and homebasing there inbetween sails to the hitherto.
Anybody have any info on extended stays on a Gemini? It's just going to be my wife and I with occasional guests. Besides not really being able to afford a big Lagoon or Catana, we really are interested in the shallow draft of the Gemini for FLorida and Bahamas gunkholing. Any tips, stories, logs, etc., will really be appreciated!
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Old 09-01-2008, 17:52   #2
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Iíve sailed on and looked over many 105Mc cats. I would seriously suggest you check out the Tom Cat 9.7. It simply blows the gemini away on every point. And is in the same price range for a new one. I have no financial interest in TomCat but Iím saving my pennies for one now.
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Old 13-01-2008, 00:16   #3
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I've never seen the boat but have been looking at that Tomcat brochure for a while now. I still can't figure out how you lock up the boat.

The brochure photos show the back of the salon is open by design. Actually, they call it their "Open design". It must have been designed for some very trusting folks who never get rained on or it has a bunch of add on panels that have to be stored someplace. Though panels aren't mentioned. I also think you'd have to be a contortionist to service those outboards. Their reviewer said the boat sails very well, but mentioned it had a few bugs to work out.

Does anyone know if they've sold any? I just checked yachtworld and came up empty.
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Old 13-01-2008, 06:58   #4
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Everybody has different wants and needs...

For our situation the Gem won out. I like diesel over gas and it is much easier to go forward in the Gem as well... (not much walking space along the lifelines in the TC)...

The TomCat has a better finish on the interior IMO, and having the lines lead aft also makes it easier to single hand, although many Gem owners have done this on their boats as well...

Many of the other issues are pure personal preference, but given the cash to buy either new, I would still go with the Gem.

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Old 13-01-2008, 10:29   #5
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[quote=rickm505;125305]I've never seen the boat but have been looking at that Tomcat brochure for a while now. I still can't figure out how you lock up the boat.
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Welcome to TomCat Boats

go to Photo Gallery>gallery 7/closure.

I don't think I want one but hope to see one in Miami.
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Old 13-01-2008, 13:47   #6
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The outboard motors are mounted on vertical slides that allow raising the motors clear of the water. You could do all service right there on the stern step, but Iíd probably lift one clear and work in the cockpit since there a dropped screw has a chance of recovery. So motor work is very easy. With the dedicated block and tackle setup my wife was able to lift the motors. I wouldnít say easily, but she could do it.

The motors can lift clear of the water but Tom said that better sailing performance is had by leaving then partially submerged and inserting a piece of foam to block up the opening. This can sand to be improved upon. Best would be to raise the motors clean and insert a plug.

Also when sailing in anything other than flat smooth water you get splash from the 105Mc sonic drive. So that neat arch seat gets soaked petty quickly. The TomCat seat says dry in the same conditions.
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The motors can lift clear of the water but Tom said that better sailing performance is had by leaving then partially submerged and inserting a piece of foam to block up the opening. This can sand to be improved upon. Best would be to raise the motors clean and insert a plug.


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Also when sailing in anything other than flat smooth water you get splash from the 105Mc sonic drive. So that neat arch seat gets soaked petty quickly. The TomCat seat says dry in the same conditions.

1 - Strange.

2 - Interesting. First I heard of that.
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<<<Also when sailing in anything other than flat smooth water you get splash from the 105Mc sonic drive. So that neat arch seat gets soaked petty quickly. The TomCat seat says dry in the same conditions.>>>

Can't say that I have had that happen yet on mine.. At high speeds the outdrive will touch, but I haven't been wet in the seat.. But I also try and keep mine light which may have something to do with it.

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And as a side note, I just took a look to see why I would not be getting the splashing you do on your Gem (hammock seat).. We keep our dink on davits which covers up the lower half of the drive leg. This may be preventing the splashing that you get. (although we have sailed quite a bit with the dink on the bridge deck too)

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go to Photo Gallery>gallery 7/closure.

I don't think I want one but hope to see one in Miami.
You certainly cleared that up

thanks
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You certainly cleared that up

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LOL.

I want to see them all.

I am pretty sure by the end of the second day I will have them confused though. Hence the "spread sheet" thread.

See you there?
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And as a side note, I just took a look to see why I would not be getting the splashing you do on your Gem (hammock seat).. We keep our dink on davits which covers up the lower half of the drive leg. This may be preventing the splashing that you get. (although we have sailed quite a bit with the dink on the bridge deck too)

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The boat that I experienced this on didn't have a dinghy. There were 5 folks so the boat may have been setting lower, but it was empty otherwise. So maybe the drive leg was just hanging low, but I did check the pump and it did seem to be at itís upper limit.
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Look for a used PDQ 32 or 36. Makes the Gemini & Tomcat look like toys.
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I found a 40' 1991 Solaris Sunstream for a real reasonable price, well equipped, had sailed the med and the carib. So far i have only been in the lower Chesapeake bay, but she has been able to do everything I want.
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