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Old 06-07-2009, 22:01   #16
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Interior finishing...

3000 hours is a lot of time to spend on a project. That's around 3 years of normal human time.

Fusion Catamarans has a website.

And there is a website, "Cruising North" that has details of a really fast assembly.
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40 hours per week for one year is 2080 hours.
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Old 07-07-2009, 02:16   #18
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I'm sorry to be so persistant but your math is not completely clear to me...

Let me translate the numbers you gave me to Euros:
Oram 44C is something around 35.000€
Fusion is around 80.000€
Difference is 45.000€ for 2000 hrs.

So it would be 22,5 € per hour. That's pretty acceptable.

BUT is that exactly the same finish? What I mean, isn't it true that I have for that price the hull and the bare interior in both versions? What about glues and fairing materials, is that included in the Oram Kit? It seems to be a lot of material to add to the boat, while with the Fusion you only have to work on the joints.

And any interior I'd like to fit in it would be extra cost, right?

My consideration is: as I have to rent a place to build my boat, it'll cost less for - let's say - two month or three than a year. I would not be able to buy a boat brand new (at least not in this class), because I simply don't have the money. And that's why I'm asking to get so detailed infos to prepare myself a cost plan and see if I can afford it.

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The Oram kit contains enough epoxy, glass, glue powder, and filler powder to build and fair a bare shell. (You can see some of this in Judy's picture a couple of posts up.) You need more peel ply than comes in the kit, and there are cheaper places to buy it than through ATL.

You do have to buy high build primer and topcoat. I would say around Au$2500-$3000 would buy all the paint you'd need to paint the exterior. Another $100 for glass beads for non-skid.

But if you have to rent a shed, then the Fusion would possibly be the better option, depending on how much the shed will cost.

Just don't go thinking you're going to sail away a finished boat in 3 months.
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The Oram kit contains enough epoxy, glass, glue powder, and filler powder to build and fair a bare shell. (You can see some of this in Judy's picture a couple of posts up.) You need more peel ply than comes in the kit, and there are cheaper places to buy it than through ATL.

You do have to buy high build primer and topcoat. I would say around Au$2500-$3000 would buy all the paint you'd need to paint the exterior. Another $100 for glass beads for non-skid.

But if you have to rent a shed, then the Fusion would possibly be the better option, depending on how much the shed will cost.

Just don't go thinking you're going to sail away a finished boat in 3 months.
Does the kit include a paint brush?
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lol lol, Catty your gunn'a get your tail cut off one day... tongaboys
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lol lol, Catty your gunn'a get your tail cut off one day... tongaboys

....that's just too funny!.......i2f
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The Fusion 40 looks like a really sweet boat. I believe I saw one on the SF Bay last summer.

I think your decision largely comes down to what price you value your labor. I would start searching for how many man hours it typically takes to build a Fusion 40, not just from the manufacturer but from a few people who actually built one. Try to contact people who actually assembled one and get their opinions. See if they would recommend that someone else assemble one. If they do recommend building one then pick their brains and try to learn from their mistakes. Try to get a feel if they are happy with the whole process.

Use this formula: (price per hour for your labor x number of hours) + cost of materials supplied by Fusion + cost of materials not supplied by Fusion + cost of specialized labor + taxes + delivery fees + yard storage fees + launch fees + other yard fees = actual cost of boat...or pretty close to it.
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Or buy one already finished. There are a couple on the market here (Australia) two excellent examples are in the 400K range. In fact one of them (blonde Moment) is under 400K Australian, and thats the listed asking price, they are probably bargains of the year in my view on the second hand market at the present.
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The owner did a nice job on this Fusion 40 build.







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I must say that these are really nice pics.

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