Fountaine Pajot Bahia 46 - Page 2

rigamarole · 09-03-2009, 09:00

I'm not sold on the functionallity of the Salina's raised platform and storing the dingy under it. I don't think I could fit the one I want there anyway. I like the idea of a stepdown platform because I could use it as a grilling area, fishing platform, smoking cigars sitting in a chair platform, etc. Mostly what I want is a stable cradle for my dingy.
I don't believe the spec's changed much on the Bahia over it's production run. Interiors and some secondary mechanical details did though. Older ones seem to have engine driven refrigeration unless they where upgraded. I haven't seen any of the factory bimini's with the solid center on anything older then an '04.
When I'm back from my charter I'll have more ideas and will update you then.

Wellington · 11-03-2009, 02:53

Thanks Rigamarole. I look forward to your update after you've sailed the Bahia (in Martinique ? in the BVI ?) - Happy sailing

rigamarole · 11-03-2009, 08:55

C-Man, I'm actually using Phil Berman as my buyer broker. Really nice guy and has a pretty good handle on cats. I re-read the 10 commandments and think I'm in compliance. There are a lot of reasons I like the Bahia, but one of the top ones is that it's relatively inexpensive compared to simular cats. This will allow me to customize it to my needs within a budget.
Wellington, were chartering out of Sint Maarten w/ Horizon. Our plan right now is to go to Anguilla, St. Barts, then back. If the wind is just right, were going to try to get a day at Saba. We chartered a Lavezzi last year and had a blast. That boat hauled. I'd consider a Belize but if you look at the brokerage prices, they want the same amount for a Belize as a Bahia.

C--man · 11-03-2009, 17:44

there is a new Belize here for $700K AU that converts to $490K US

how does that compare?

rigamarole · 12-03-2009, 14:16

https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/200...Virgin-Islands

https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/200...the-Grenadines

Here's a couple. I'm still guessing that these will sell for over 20% less then list, but that's just a guess.

Herbseesmoore · 07-07-2009, 09:43

Looking at the adds on Yacht World, what are those large stainless steel sinks for in the hulls, they show with a drain board. Of course I need to get on one and see it for myself, just wondering.

LOL Bahia does not sink!

catman · 07-07-2009, 09:55

I was attracted to the Bahia as well but the galley is designed more for looks than function. I am now leaning more to a Voyage style cat.
The Maestro version has the added advantage of a peninsula master berth and separate shower, but alas still has the goofy galley.
Cheers

rigamarole · 07-07-2009, 11:19

The Bahia your looking at had a custom second sink installed in the starboard hull for food prep. This is due to the total lack of a counter in the galley.

Full Sail · 07-07-2009, 12:13

I'm still new to my Bahia (1 month). When buying it I was thinking that replacing that sink was going to be high on my list. It turns out that it is quite functional. Pots, pans, dishes & bowls are round after all. They fit in there quite nicely. Preparing the food just takes a little planning ahead. Get your stuff out before you start. There is also a great drain rack under the cutting board to hide the dishes while they dry.

rigamarole · 07-07-2009, 12:41

I think the sink herbseesmore was talking about was on a boat that was in a crewed charter fleet. I can't seem to find it right now but they had taken the single midship berth in the starboard hull and made it a sink/prep area with storage below.

Still, my problem with the galley is it's poor layout. Compare the below:

Herbseesmoore · 07-07-2009, 13:00

1207680086000

here they are, so you believe this is custom.

rigamarole · 07-07-2009, 13:59

Definately. If I do get a Bahia, I'm going to pull the oven out and put a front loading fridge/freezer there. Then I'll replace the stove top with a stove/oven combo unit. The reason they don't have it that way now is that it would cut into the berth area which is right about that sink you've posted. Then you can make the rest of the midship berth area into a pantry, which the boat needs. The existing fridge/freezer could be made into a mid-temp veggie cooler.

catman · 07-07-2009, 16:09

I owned a F/P Fidji for a few years and it had a compromised fuel tank.
To remove the fuel tank I had to cut out the entire galley fiberglass frame.
The new owner had to refabricate a whole new galley which took awhile and cost over $5000.
Tricky cats those F/P's. Not exactly built for easy modifications.
Cheers

Full Sail · 13-07-2009, 08:15

I have had my Bahia now for a little over a month. I plan on living aboard it this winter. I have been wrestling with a number of solutions to put up some sort of curtain or blind across that big currved asymetrical window across the front of the salon, both for privacy and heat abatement. Any owners out there willing to share their solutions? Thanks

catman · 13-07-2009, 08:29

From my building experience it is important to first keep the sun from touching the window. Once the sun hits the window the heat is transfered through.
The most effective method to keep the sun out is to cover the window from the outside with some type semi-transparent shading.
If possible attach the sunscreening to the eyebrow edge to keep the sun from touching the window. Manta and Leopard use slated window shade/steps in front of their windows.
Cheers

07-07-2009, 09:43	#6
Herbseesmoore Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Ocala, Fl Boat: Shopping for the escape Posts: 100	Bahia sinks Looking at the adds on Yacht World, what are those large stainless steel sinks for in the hulls, they show with a drain board. Of course I need to get on one and see it for myself, just wondering. LOL Bahia does not sink! __________________ Herbster "I dip and I surge and I swing in the rip of the racing tide." R Kipling

07-07-2009, 12:13	#9
Full Sail Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: New Jersey and Florida Boat: FP Bahia 46 Posts: 35	The Galley I'm still new to my Bahia (1 month). When buying it I was thinking that replacing that sink was going to be high on my list. It turns out that it is quite functional. Pots, pans, dishes & bowls are round after all. They fit in there quite nicely. Preparing the food just takes a little planning ahead. Get your stuff out before you start. There is also a great drain rack under the cutting board to hide the dishes while they dry. __________________ I may not be as good as I used to be, but I am as good once as I ever was

07-07-2009, 13:00	#11
Herbseesmoore Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Ocala, Fl Boat: Shopping for the escape Posts: 100	1207680086000 here they are, so you believe this is custom. __________________ Herbster "I dip and I surge and I swing in the rip of the racing tide." R Kipling

13-07-2009, 08:15	#14
Full Sail Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: New Jersey and Florida Boat: FP Bahia 46 Posts: 35	What to do with that BIG window I have had my Bahia now for a little over a month. I plan on living aboard it this winter. I have been wrestling with a number of solutions to put up some sort of curtain or blind across that big currved asymetrical window across the front of the salon, both for privacy and heat abatement. Any owners out there willing to share their solutions? Thanks __________________ I may not be as good as I used to be, but I am as good once as I ever was

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09-03-2009, 09:00	#1
rigamarole Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: West Coast of Michigan Boat: Power boat and small sail Posts: 311	I'm not sold on the functionallity of the Salina's raised platform and storing the dingy under it. I don't think I could fit the one I want there anyway. I like the idea of a stepdown platform because I could use it as a grilling area, fishing platform, smoking cigars sitting in a chair platform, etc. Mostly what I want is a stable cradle for my dingy. I don't believe the spec's changed much on the Bahia over it's production run. Interiors and some secondary mechanical details did though. Older ones seem to have engine driven refrigeration unless they where upgraded. I haven't seen any of the factory bimini's with the solid center on anything older then an '04. When I'm back from my charter I'll have more ideas and will update you then.

11-03-2009, 02:53	#2
Wellington Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Wellington, NZ Boat: wish list include Lavezzi 40, Bahia 46, Lagoon 410 Posts: 31	Thanks Rigamarole. I look forward to your update after you've sailed the Bahia (in Martinique ? in the BVI ?) - Happy sailing

11-03-2009, 08:55	#3
rigamarole Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: West Coast of Michigan Boat: Power boat and small sail Posts: 311	C-Man, I'm actually using Phil Berman as my buyer broker. Really nice guy and has a pretty good handle on cats. I re-read the 10 commandments and think I'm in compliance. There are a lot of reasons I like the Bahia, but one of the top ones is that it's relatively inexpensive compared to simular cats. This will allow me to customize it to my needs within a budget. Wellington, were chartering out of Sint Maarten w/ Horizon. Our plan right now is to go to Anguilla, St. Barts, then back. If the wind is just right, were going to try to get a day at Saba. We chartered a Lavezzi last year and had a blast. That boat hauled. I'd consider a Belize but if you look at the brokerage prices, they want the same amount for a Belize as a Bahia.

11-03-2009, 17:44	#4
C--man Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Noosa, Australia Boat: 9' Zociac (fastroller) Posts: 60	there is a new Belize here for $700K AU that converts to $490K US how does that compare?

12-03-2009, 14:16	#5
rigamarole Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: West Coast of Michigan Boat: Power boat and small sail Posts: 311	https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/200...Virgin-Islands https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/200...the-Grenadines Here's a couple. I'm still guessing that these will sell for over 20% less then list, but that's just a guess.

07-07-2009, 09:55	#7
catman Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Sidney, B.C, Canada Boat: want a 40'+ high volume (comfort) economical cruising catamaran Posts: 15	I was attracted to the Bahia as well but the galley is designed more for looks than function. I am now leaning more to a Voyage style cat. The Maestro version has the added advantage of a peninsula master berth and separate shower, but alas still has the goofy galley. Cheers

07-07-2009, 11:19	#8
rigamarole Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: West Coast of Michigan Boat: Power boat and small sail Posts: 311	The Bahia your looking at had a custom second sink installed in the starboard hull for food prep. This is due to the total lack of a counter in the galley.

07-07-2009, 12:41	#10
rigamarole Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: West Coast of Michigan Boat: Power boat and small sail Posts: 311	I think the sink herbseesmore was talking about was on a boat that was in a crewed charter fleet. I can't seem to find it right now but they had taken the single midship berth in the starboard hull and made it a sink/prep area with storage below. Still, my problem with the galley is it's poor layout. Compare the below:

07-07-2009, 13:59	#12
rigamarole Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: West Coast of Michigan Boat: Power boat and small sail Posts: 311	Definately. If I do get a Bahia, I'm going to pull the oven out and put a front loading fridge/freezer there. Then I'll replace the stove top with a stove/oven combo unit. The reason they don't have it that way now is that it would cut into the berth area which is right about that sink you've posted. Then you can make the rest of the midship berth area into a pantry, which the boat needs. The existing fridge/freezer could be made into a mid-temp veggie cooler.

07-07-2009, 16:09	#13
catman Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Sidney, B.C, Canada Boat: want a 40'+ high volume (comfort) economical cruising catamaran Posts: 15	I owned a F/P Fidji for a few years and it had a compromised fuel tank. To remove the fuel tank I had to cut out the entire galley fiberglass frame. The new owner had to refabricate a whole new galley which took awhile and cost over $5000. Tricky cats those F/P's. Not exactly built for easy modifications. Cheers

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catman Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Sidney, B.C, Canada Boat: want a 40'+ high volume (comfort) economical cruising catamaran Posts: 15	From my building experience it is important to first keep the sun from touching the window. Once the sun hits the window the heat is transfered through. The most effective method to keep the sun out is to cover the window from the outside with some type semi-transparent shading. If possible attach the sunscreening to the eyebrow edge to keep the sun from touching the window. Manta and Leopard use slated window shade/steps in front of their windows. Cheers