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11-11-2013, 22:23
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#46
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Philippines in the winters
Boat: It’s in French Polynesia now
Posts: 11,368
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Re: Fixing things constantly--Is it true?
I once had an old pocket watch that quit running. I took it to this old German watch maker. He opened up the back and found a dead ant inside.
He stated "Aw.... der machinist ist deadt"
With that little joke, it comes down to who and how often a boat is maintained. Some times it's the person running the show. Some boats keep running forever b/c the owner is a maintenance technician. And that is what one has to become in order to avoid breakdowns.
Or one has to hire/have aboard a person who knows every little bit about the boat and create a schedule of inspections to find/recognize problems that may arise, like with airplanes. But a lot of boats are a breed of their own and one can not just hire a tech to come in and find problems. Every boat is different, even the production boats to a point.
It's not the boats fault if it's run within its build parameters. Which can be questionable on some boats.
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12-11-2013, 04:28
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#47
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Maryland, USA
Boat: 58' Sedan Bridge
Posts: 5,430
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Re: Fixing things constantly--Is it true?
Quote:
Originally Posted by ty.gregory
What about a trawler? Is that the answer?
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Probably depends. If you like to sail, maybe no. If you prefer to turn the key and go, maybe yes.
And then it would depends on "the trawler" you pick. Engine maintenance on a single-screw trawler is pretty much the same as on a single-screw sailboat's auxiliary engine. Genset maintenance, ditto. And so forth.
It starts to change more with twin-screw boats... but the techniques are the same. That said, access to both sides of the engine -- for easier maintenance and service -- sometimes gets a bit compromised.
But then compare that to the cost of maintaining sails and rigging... and electric/electronic things mounted in the rigging...
-Chris
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Chesapeake Bay, USA.
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12-11-2013, 04:37
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#48
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2007
Boat: TRT 1200
Posts: 7,271
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Originally Posted by Kenomac
My wife requires lots of water and electrical power to be content, and if I ever decided to install an outhouse inside the house.... My cruising days would be over... Friends and family would never tolerate it. But I do understand that for some people, with special circumstances, the outhouse does make more sense like on a fresh water reservoir.
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With our "outhouse" we have absolutely no odor. With your conventional head my guess is the interior of your boat smells like a cesspool, something my wife wouldn't tolerate!
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12-11-2013, 04:55
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#49
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running down a dream
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Florida
Boat: cape dory 30 MKII
Posts: 3,115
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Re: Fixing things constantly--Is it true?
the thing about older boats is many times when things break there is no replacement part available .. especially electronics. also every boat is different .. nothing looks the same inside. by the time you become owner there may have been many hacks done and not done quite right or not finished. now you must deal with it while bent over backwards or upside down with the boat rocking in extreme heat or cold. with land based homes you see more standardization and ease of access to vital systems. oh yes and a nice flushing toilet
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12-11-2013, 08:22
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cruiser
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Pangaea
Posts: 10,856
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Re: Fixing things constantly--Is it true?
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Originally Posted by smj
With our "outhouse" we have absolutely no odor. With your conventional head my guess is the interior of your boat smells like a cesspool, something my wife wouldn't tolerate!
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You guessed wrong... No odor, no bugs, no fuss no hauling waste.
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12-11-2013, 08:44
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Maryland, USA
Boat: 58' Sedan Bridge
Posts: 5,430
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Re: Fixing things constantly--Is it true?
Quote:
Originally Posted by smj
With your conventional head my guess is the interior of your boat smells like a cesspool...
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?? Why would you guess that ??
-Chris
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Chesapeake Bay, USA.
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12-11-2013, 08:58
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#52
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cat herder, extreme blacksheep
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: furycame alley , tropics, mexico for now
Boat: 1976 FORMOSA yankee clipper 41
Posts: 18,967
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Re: Fixing things constantly--Is it true?
all houses are constant work.
all boats are constant work.
buy what ye like and run it and keep repairing it. this wont stop..you will always be repairing, even after it is perfect.
learn how to repair underway so you dont get stuck anywhere you dont wish to be stuck....
i found it more to my liking to buy a boat with the lines i wanted then rebuild it. the new designs are all the same.
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12-11-2013, 09:33
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#53
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2007
Boat: TRT 1200
Posts: 7,271
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kenomac
You guessed wrong... No odor, no bugs, no fuss no hauling waste.
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So what do you do with the waste?
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12-11-2013, 09:37
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#54
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cruiser
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Pangaea
Posts: 10,856
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Re: Fixing things constantly--Is it true?
Quote:
Originally Posted by smj
So what do you do with the waste?
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Flush it... and let the ocean's great bio mass take care of the rest. We have macerating electric heads.
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12-11-2013, 09:41
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#55
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2007
Boat: TRT 1200
Posts: 7,271
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kenomac
Flush it... and let the ocean's great bio mass take care of the rest. We have macerating electric heads.
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I'm sure your really appreciated by your neighbors in the anchorage. I could understand emptying a holding tank offshore, but inshore highly illegal in most places.
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12-11-2013, 09:59
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#56
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cruiser
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Pangaea
Posts: 10,856
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Re: Fixing things constantly--Is it true?
I'm too busy enjoying the sunrise and sunset to be bothered, besides... the fishies love hanging around our hull. 'Nuff said.
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12-11-2013, 10:00
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#57
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Caribbean
Boat: Oyster 66
Posts: 1,338
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Re: Fixing things constantly--Is it true?
There is nothing, absolutely nothing half so much work than simply owning and maintaining a boat.
I have maintained lots and lots of things. Property, planes, cars. Nothing comes close to the amount of work, repairs and maintenance boats require. Not remotely.
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12-11-2013, 10:28
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#58
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Philippines in the winters
Boat: It’s in French Polynesia now
Posts: 11,368
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Re: Fixing things constantly--Is it true?
Quote:
Originally Posted by poiu
There is nothing, absolutely nothing half so much work than simply owning and maintaining a boat.
I have maintained lots and lots of things. Property, planes, cars. Nothing comes close to the amount of work, repairs and maintenance boats require. Not remotely.
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Now that depends on your physical status. I can't work on cars anymore b/c of having to bend over fenders and reaching or crawling underneath. I even get cramps in my hands twisting bolts. My back and neck can't take it. Or working the soil like in a garden or farm. No way!
But for the past four years since my surgery I have finished up rebuilding this old boat of mine. Not easy, but doable. If not, you wouldn't see all these old folks out sailing around.
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Faithful are the Wounds of a Friend, but the Kisses of the Enemy are Deceitful! ........
The measure of a man is how he navigates to a proper shore in the midst of a storm!
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12-11-2013, 10:37
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CLOD
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: being planted in Jacksonville Fl
Boat: none
Posts: 20,415
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Re: Fixing things constantly--Is it true?
Quote:
Originally Posted by poiu
There is nothing, absolutely nothing half so much work than simply owning and maintaining a boat.
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I don't find maintaining the boat all that big of a chore.
OTOH lots of boaters seem to be more into doing boat work than boating.
There are some things on my "to do" list that have been on it for 3 years. They aren't getting any worst and probably never really matter whether they ever get done other that something about them was bugging me.
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Don't ask a bunch of unknown forum people if it is OK to do something on YOUR boat. It is your boat, do what you want!
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12-11-2013, 15:46
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#60
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2007
Boat: TRT 1200
Posts: 7,271
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kenomac
I'm too busy enjoying the sunrise and sunset to be bothered, besides... the fishies love hanging around our hull. 'Nuff said.
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Ok, maybe I was wrong. Your boat doesn't smell like a cesspool, but maybe every anchorage you frequent does? Not my idea of a tropical paradise but each to his own.
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