Deck salon

wallm · 04-04-2006, 10:09

Along the lines of the monohull vs multihull discussion I have the following question. I have sailed and chartered many different monohulls and recently my first catamaran. We really liked the ease of access from cockpit to salon on the cat but I still probably prefer monos. I have never been on a deck salon mono such as Jeanneau makes. Do these offer some of the nice aspects of the salon of a catamaran (ease of access, view, ventilation)?

Joli · 05-04-2006, 15:36

Wallm, you may want to post this in the mono section. I'm sure there are some deck salon sailors that have chartered cats and could give you a comparison.

**Kai Nui** · 05-04-2006, 19:16

Lakbay Dagat used to own a Choy Lee 43 Motorsailor that had as plush accomodations as you could ever want. Being a big boat guy, he can probably give you a very good review of the good and bad of that set up. I have sailed on that boat, and spent quite a few evenings partying away there, and it was very comfortable.

Talbot · 06-04-2006, 10:26

Southerly make quite a good deck saloon boat. But any mono that leans over is going to be putting its windows at more of a risk than those on a cat, so cannot afford to be as large. Furthermore access across the boat has to be a bit more restricted to try to prevent somebody being thrown from one side to the other during a fast tack. Width of the boat is another factor.

Deck saloon monos also tend to take additional space from the cockpit in order to maximise the saloon space. Thus the cockpit becomes small and cramped.

Again due to maximising the width of the deck saloon, the deck area either side of the saloon tends to be minimised making transit to the foredeck difficult and in some circumstances dangerous.

Moby Dick · 06-04-2006, 11:48

Plus, check the forward visbility from the cockpit help position. You will find that the deck saloon gets in your eye-line OR you have a high cockpit with the extra motion that involves.

And of course raising the coach roof means higher CoG, higher boom, therefore smaller sail area etc etc.

I think a deck saloon starts to work well on hulls that are 50ft or more in length, but below that there are many compromises: too many? You decide.

I seriously looked a smaller mono deck saloons, but decided they were too much of a compromise

04-04-2006, 10:09	#1
wallm Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 17	Deck salon Along the lines of the monohull vs multihull discussion I have the following question. I have sailed and chartered many different monohulls and recently my first catamaran. We really liked the ease of access from cockpit to salon on the cat but I still probably prefer monos. I have never been on a deck salon mono such as Jeanneau makes. Do these offer some of the nice aspects of the salon of a catamaran (ease of access, view, ventilation)?

05-04-2006, 19:16	#3
Kai Nui Captain Site Administrator Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Moss Landing, Ca Boat: 37' Piver Lodestar - Kai Nui Posts: 4,392 Images: 80	Lakbay Dagat used to own a Choy Lee 43 Motorsailor that had as plush accomodations as you could ever want. Being a big boat guy, he can probably give you a very good review of the good and bad of that set up. I have sailed on that boat, and spent quite a few evenings partying away there, and it was very comfortable. __________________ There is no better bilge pump than a scared sailor with a bucket. KAI NUI

06-04-2006, 10:26	#4
Talbot Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Stavanger, Norway Boat: Last boat was a Catalac 9m Hi-Jude Posts: 2,053 Images: 23	Southerly make quite a good deck saloon boat. But any mono that leans over is going to be putting its windows at more of a risk than those on a cat, so cannot afford to be as large. Furthermore access across the boat has to be a bit more restricted to try to prevent somebody being thrown from one side to the other during a fast tack. Width of the boat is another factor. Deck saloon monos also tend to take additional space from the cockpit in order to maximise the saloon space. Thus the cockpit becomes small and cramped. Again due to maximising the width of the deck saloon, the deck area either side of the saloon tends to be minimised making transit to the foredeck difficult and in some circumstances dangerous. __________________ "Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors - and miss." Robert A Heinlein

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05-04-2006, 15:36	#2
Joli Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,203 Images: 6	Wallm, you may want to post this in the mono section. I'm sure there are some deck salon sailors that have chartered cats and could give you a comparison.

06-04-2006, 11:48	#5
Moby Dick Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 184	Plus, check the forward visbility from the cockpit help position. You will find that the deck saloon gets in your eye-line OR you have a high cockpit with the extra motion that involves. And of course raising the coach roof means higher CoG, higher boom, therefore smaller sail area etc etc. I think a deck saloon starts to work well on hulls that are 50ft or more in length, but below that there are many compromises: too many? You decide. I seriously looked a smaller mono deck saloons, but decided they were too much of a compromise