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Old 25-04-2015, 15:44   #1
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Could anyone help me identify the make of this trimaran please

I'm wondering if you could help me with the identification of maker and even model . I think its 40 ft .
Thanks woody
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Old 25-04-2015, 21:45   #2
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Re: Could anyone help me identify the make of this trimaran please

Looks a bit like a Cross to me but highly modified and not in a good way. I think those wingdecks (akas) are sagging. Cross generally had wide akas and slim amas like this one and some had the sugar scoop steps.
The rig doesn't look right. I can't tell the mast height but the boom looks short. I wonder if it was originally a ketch and the mizzen mast was removed.
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Old 25-04-2015, 21:58   #3
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Too many windows in front. I think those are apartments.
Okay, maybe that's the back, now that I've had a better look.
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Old 26-04-2015, 01:36   #4
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Re: Could anyone help me identify the make of this trimaran please

sand crab it definitly looks like one when ive google imaged it now .
Its supposed to be foam core ? does that shed any more light ?
Ive been sent a few more pics and will put them on for your honest opinion too .
Thanks for your help , any thing else to note, please say.

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Old 26-04-2015, 02:40   #5
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Its supposed to be foam core ? does that shed any more light ?
Well, environmentally speaking you shouldn't burn it but if you're being offered enough money to dispose of it then perhaps it's a good deal...

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Old 26-04-2015, 02:55   #6
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Well, environmentally speaking you shouldn't burn it but if you're being offered enough money to dispose of it then perhaps it's a good deal...

I'm sure it's not as good as you craft but is that what you're you genuinely think .
It has been gifted to me yes ( if I want it )
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Old 26-04-2015, 03:20   #7
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I'm sure it's not as good as you craft but is that what you're you genuinely think .
It has been gifted to me yes ( if I want it )
Apologies for the glib reply, I like sailing and have very limited fibreglassing repair experience and only own a laser 2 because up until now that suits my time availability.

To me the large cracks in structural parts of the boat (ama / deck join) would be enough to lead me to think 100's or 1,000's of hours would be spent bringing the boat back to a seaworthy condition.

For me the reason why I wouldn't accept it is that it won't be worth much at the finish, big tri's like that sell for ~$50k at the most in good condition, likely less for one that is so far from the original plans.

Just my non boat building, mucho online research opinion added to the oft repeated quote "If it flies, floats or ****, rent it".
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Old 26-04-2015, 04:26   #8
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That one will need some work. There are a few questions to ask.
1. Does it float? The pics show it sitting on it's bottom.
2. Is there a motor and does it run?
3. Are there sails and rigging?
4. Got any pics of the inside?
5. Where is it and what is it's name? Many countries have free databases of the ships registered there and you could look it up and see what it's called.

Cross tris (if it is a Cross) were built using many cores including foam. I suspect that most were plywood and/or double diagonal ply. Most were home built. There are many discussions on these here and the other forums like Boatdesign.

There are plans here of a C42 that looks like yours. Note that it is a ketch rig and the main mast looks similar to yours. If yours had a mizzenmast and it was removed then the boat will be slow and might not be balanced under sail.
Cross Trimarans

There is a saying that the most expensive boat is a free one so be careful. One poor fellow got a freebie and it fell apart in the travelift. Ouch!
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Old 26-04-2015, 10:47   #9
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Run, don't walk.
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You folks must be looking at photographs other than what I see to determine that this boat is scrap. Run down yes, not rebuild able, ???
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Re: Could anyone help me identify the make of this trimaran please

It's probably worth a kayak ride out to investigate further. I'd bring a moisture meter, something to hammer with (but not a serious steel hammer- a plastic hammer or back of a screwdriver (plastic) to sound the deck and hulls, where you can).
Bring an awl too, if it's plywood. At least that way, when you reach the boat, you can say out loud: "Awl aboard!".
It might be your last laugh of the day.
And as SandCrab noted, that sailplan doesn't look all that well balanced.
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You can rebuild almost anything.
Is it worth it?
Should you just start from scratch instead?
If you are willing to invest huge number of hours working on a boat.

Buying an existing boat, you would save some material cost, the cost of buying plans, but will the end result be worth it vs a new boat?
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Old 26-04-2015, 13:50   #13
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I looks to me like it started with Cross hulls, maybe bulkheads too, and the builder deviated from there.
I bought an older foam core, plywood deck Cross tri that was built by the South Bay Boatyard in San Diego under Norm Crosses supervision. It also started life as a ketch. When I got it the mizzen was gone and it had a funky wishbone boom with a threadbare 2nd hand sail. The hulls and structure were solid and without rot, the rest was dated but well kept so I bought it. I put a long boom on her and a new roached main which balanced her out and now she sails fine. I can usually count on 7 to 9 knots.
From the exterior photos you posted your gifted boat looks like it has spent some lonely years without much attention. A boat that age and size in good shape is a lot of work. I would look very closely and think very hard before deciding what to do with it.
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You can rebuild almost anything.
Is it worth it?
Should you just start from scratch instead?
If you are willing to invest huge number of hours working on a boat.

Buying an existing boat, you would save some material cost, the cost of buying plans, but will the end result be worth it vs a new boat?
I agree, I am just saying that the seaworthiness of this vessel probably cannot be determined from those pictures.
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Don't make someone else's problem your problem. From what I can see the cost to repair this boat will exceed the boat's worth. Not to mention the amount of time you'll waste. Find a boat in the best condition you can & let someone else eat the depreciation.
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