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Old 25-05-2013, 18:26   #331
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Hi Steve,
Can you please elaborate? Did it look like too much work/expense? Did you see any big repair problems?

I'm having a difficult time, given my minimal boat experience, seeing why it could take $50k plus to make it livable/sailable.

My brother has some valuable boat building experience/nightmares and he will be giving the boat a look-over tomorrow.

Would you be willing to call me at 808-747-0060, or send me your number so I can call you?

Why wouldn't I want to use light gauge steel instead of heavier, rot-prone wood? I've built houses using it and it works very nicely.
She definitely catches your eye and I can see how you could fall in love . You must have some serious bank, though....
But it's all relative, neh...? The Piver 28' that I hope to end up with is in the $3,000. range. Old but she sails NOW...
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Old 25-05-2013, 19:25   #332
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Re: Cheap Multis and Projects

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We don't know why this tri vanished but it was an older boat.

From what's been posted so far the boat you're looking at is in much worse condition and you don't have the funds to fix it.

I strongly recommend that you consider the seaworthiness of any boat and the cost of making and keeping it seaworthy before buying anything.

You're planning on putting your family on whatever you buy. Boats do break up/sink/vanish and older boats in poor condition are much more likely to do so.
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Old 25-05-2013, 20:47   #333
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Sounds like I'd be better off waiting for something that needs less work. My budget is considerably lower than that.

This one looks interesting, but it's a tad on the small side for a family of 4. Would it's size lend itself to comfortable long distance cruising?

1983 Prout Quest Sail Boat For Sale - www.yachtworld.com

Mahalo for all the feedback!
That boat would be fine for some coastal cruising. It would be a bit cramped for 4 people and an ocean crossing. Also consider an older Gemini but there is a real sweet 35' homebuilt cat in this thread a couple of pages back for about the same money. It's in the Caribbean and we all liked it. Good luck.
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Old 25-05-2013, 22:06   #334
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Aloha!
I'm very interested in Mad Dog (1974 Brown Trimaran Sail Boat For Sale - www.yachtworld.com)
Anyone else have an opinion?

I'm looking for a fixer I can "customize".
It would need pretty much everything, there is not much to it but the hulls/deck, which might be sound as it has been floating for 10 years.
So this isn't a fixer-upper, but a full custom rebuild.
I think free is about the right price to take on such a big project,
but maybe you are better off building a new boat from scratch instead
as it will cost about the same.
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Old 25-05-2013, 22:11   #335
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It has some of the elements of a Marples Seaclipper, A survey by John would be in order there.
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Old 26-05-2013, 01:36   #336
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It has some of the elements of a Marples Seaclipper, A survey by John would be in order there.
The name is Moon Dog not mad dog. Jim designed this RF 45 for his long time friend and cartoonist of the construction books Jo Hudson. Jo built it out of epoxy, one of the first. A lot of boat still there. Would make a great liveaboard bay delta cruiser. RF stands for rather funky which is exactly what Jo wanted. I was a partner in the 80's.would own and be sailing her within a month if I didn't already have my SR 40. Part of the reason for the name of my current boat, the dog that's gone. I know that Jim would like to hear that Moon Dog sails on.
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Not for four, but
http://sfbay.en.craigslist.org/nby/boa/3770011006.html
looks interesting
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Not for four, but
http://sfbay.en.craigslist.org/nby/boa/3770011006.html
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Four people that is, as someone was looking. I do think it's worth the price tho
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There are 4 bunks on that thing...
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Old 26-05-2013, 06:23   #340
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There are 4 bunks on that thing...
Still seems cramped :-)
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Old 27-05-2013, 01:04   #341
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Re: Cheap Multis and Projects

This one's a bit small for me, but someone in the PNW might find it interesting: catamaran Bill O'Brien BOBcat

'65 Bill O'Brien BOBcat - $12000
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Old 27-05-2013, 10:24   #342
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The name is Moon Dog not mad dog. Jim designed this RF 45 for his long time friend and cartoonist of the construction books Jo Hudson. Jo built it out of epoxy, one of the first. A lot of boat still there. Would make a great liveaboard bay delta cruiser. RF stands for rather funky which is exactly what Jo wanted. I was a partner in the 80's.would own and be sailing her within a month if I didn't already have my SR 40. Part of the reason for the name of my current boat, the dog that's gone. I know that Jim would like to hear that Moon Dog sails on.
Could be a Bad Dog....what was it built with? A survey by Marples would let you know if it has any potential.
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Could be a Bad Dog....what was it built with? A survey by Marples would let you know if it has any potential.
I do know that the plywood available 40 years ago is a lot better than today's. I do know that all the framing is old growth redwood because that was what was available when Jo built it. I do know that Marples is very familiar with the vessel and has been contacted by a buyer. I would recommend that any buyer should always look at getting a survey. Being able to understand plywood and work with it verses hiring a yard and getting estimates is the difference in who is going to buy this bad dog and make it happen.
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Strange that Jim would be so disinterested in Craig's email, if the history is correct. It looks like a giant Seaclipper 28 to me.
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Old 27-05-2013, 12:58   #345
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Redwood needs to be dimensioned a bit larger than fir to have the same strength, I'm sure Marples knows what is required. The cheap Brown that broke up on the beach in Seattle had cedar substituting for the timbers, I don't think the builder made a size adjustment. For people learning about wood the Gougeon book has some wood data tables, the hands on people should get some same sized samples, say 1"x 1" to break over their knee to learn about species strength and grain strength.
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