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Old 27-01-2016, 16:00   #1
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Centerboard up or down at anchor

While we are at anchor or moored I prefer to take the centerboard up in order not to drift over the anchor or bridle line and have that get tangled up behind the centerboard. The downside is that the boat with no rudder or centerboard down is moving around a lot.

With the centerboard down the boat also sails quite a bit and tends to hit the mooring ball frequently.

How do others, especially Tris, handle this?

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Old 27-01-2016, 16:22   #2
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Re: Centerboard up or down at anchor

I'm going to bet you aren't laying to a bridle.

Try a bridle in which each leg is equal to your boat's beam (2x beam overall)

That should stop it sailing around, at least that's been my experience
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Old 27-01-2016, 16:29   #3
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Re: Centerboard up or down at anchor

Like said above, I use a bridle. 10 meter long on each side. Beam is 8 meter. With the board and rudder down I still sail a lot and manage to hit the mooring ball quite frequently (no tide). :-)
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Old 27-01-2016, 16:31   #4
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Re: Centerboard up or down at anchor

Almost always up. The boat tends to point at the wind rather than the tide, which is usually more comfortable. We sometimes lift our rudders too, for the same reason.


A bridle reduces sailing around.
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Old 27-01-2016, 21:06   #5
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Re: Centerboard up or down at anchor

we leave ours up, because if it's down it bangs.
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Re: Centerboard up or down at anchor

Either board and rudder up, or board down. Yes, it will move side to side a little more, but it won't "sail" and thre will be no force to it. Keeping the board down will dampen the motion, but when it "sails" it will jerk the anchor more, which is what matters.

Yes, board up, rudder down will sail all over the place. Obvious, since you've moved the CLR way back.

Yes, the board may bang. Boat-specific, mine did not.

(I used to have a very light cat)
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Old 28-01-2016, 02:25   #7
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Re: Centerboard up or down at anchor

Board up, rudders down & a bridle. (if shallow, I might pull the rudders up also).
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Old 28-01-2016, 08:37   #8
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Re: Centerboard up or down at anchor

may I suggest a riding sail? aka Anchoring Sail. my boat, a mono with a big bimini, sailed terribly at anchor. the slightest breeze would run it all over, and strong wind set it to sailing so violently that it would eventually break the anchor out.

I got a riding sail for a couple hundred bucks, sets up in 5 minutes and holds the boat like a rock. the more wind the better the boat digs the anchor in. It made the total difference in my wife and me sleeping through the night rather than constant anchor watch.
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Old 28-01-2016, 09:14   #9
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Re: Centerboard up or down at anchor

Where did you get the riding sail? All I have found so far is a delta thing that I don't want and a kit. But I have not as yet called a loft


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Re: Centerboard up or down at anchor

Thanks Symphonie, are you speaking of a yawl like sail or something special. I have considered a yawl like sail but in essence it will not work on the tipe of boat I have for a number of reasons but if you are talking about something different a foto would be highly appreciated. Thanks already.
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Re: Centerboard up or down at anchor

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Where did you get the riding sail? All I have found so far is a delta thing that I don't want and a kit. But I have not as yet called a loft


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ha, sorry to tell you then - it's the Banner Bay FinDelta riding sail. for us it is perfect. very well constructed. my wife and I use it every time we anchor, even just for a snack or a swim. we've used it for 3 seasons already up to and including 35 kt winds. as soon as the hook is down we connect the main halyard to its headline, snap its tack shackle around the main traveler, the snap the two clews over the bimini and onto both stern mooring cleats. haul the halyard up and the boat instantly sits like a rock.

the seller makes them himself. very nice guy.
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Re: Centerboard up or down at anchor

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Thanks Symphonie, are you speaking of a yawl like sail or something special. I have considered a yawl like sail but in essence it will not work on the tipe of boat I have for a number of reasons but if you are talking about something different a foto would be highly appreciated. Thanks already.
hi Tri,
yawls and ketches do have some ability to fly a steadying sail at anchor, but the FinDelta is different because it has triangular leg panels. much more positive pointing effect than a reefed mizzen.

I assume you could fly this FinDelta riding sail over your cockpit once you furl the main. the tack and clew/legs are totally adjustable by the amount of line used to secure them.
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Re: Centerboard up or down at anchor

Hi Symphony,

thanks a lot. I just looked it up in the internet. It looks very interesting.

Does anybody else have any first hand practical experience with the Banner Bay FinDelta riding sail?
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Boards up for peace and quiet.
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Re: Centerboard up or down at anchor

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ha, sorry to tell you then - it's the Banner Bay FinDelta riding sail. for us it is perfect. very well constructed. my wife and I use it every time we anchor, even just for a snack or a swim. we've used it for 3 seasons already up to and including 35 kt winds. as soon as the hook is down we connect the main halyard to its headline, snap its tack shackle around the main traveler, the snap the two clews over the bimini and onto both stern mooring cleats. haul the halyard up and the boat instantly sits like a rock.

the seller makes them himself. very nice guy.
Do understand you correctly? It is stationary fore and aft. Not a sail but a fin in effect? I was going to suggest a well reefed main with tight sheets. Leaving a board down sounds like a disaster even with a heavy anchor sally.
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