Cruisers Forum
 


Join CruisersForum Today

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 02-03-2016, 18:40   #1
cruiser

Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 506
Catamaran surfs into rocks

Apologies if its already been discussed.
Salvage efforts underway for catamaran near Honokohau Harbor - Honolulu, Hawaii News and Weather - KITV Channel 4


Second video down page shows complete surf.
__________________

__________________
Seaslug Caravan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-2016, 18:51   #2
Registered User
 
snort's Avatar

Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Trunk (boot) of my car
Boat: Tinker Traveller...a dozen feet of bluewater awesomeness!
Posts: 1,034
Re: catamaran surfs into rocks

The 'surfs' part actually looked kind of fun; the 'rocks' part, probably not as much.
__________________

__________________
snort is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-2016, 21:33   #3
Senior Cruiser
 
44'cruisingcat's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 7,458
Images: 69
Re: catamaran surfs into rocks

Bummer. Must have been caught at such an angle the rudders couldn't turn the boat down the wave.


Friends of ours experienced something similar, and were heading for a rock wall. Out of desperation he turned the wheel the other way, steered INTO the wave (which would go against every instinct.).


Amazingly, the boat turned up and over the wave, and apart from some broken crockery, was fine. When he was telling me, I wondered if I would have that presence of mind in that situation. I don't know.
__________________
"You CANNOT be serious!"


John McEnroe
44'cruisingcat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-2016, 21:53   #4
Senior Cruiser
 
senormechanico's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Aug 2003
Boat: Dragonfly 1000 trimaran
Posts: 5,832
Re: catamaran surfs into rocks

Less than one second into the video I was hollering, "TURN TO STARBOARD !!"
__________________
Memento,homo, quia pulvis es, et in pulverem reverteris.
senormechanico is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-2016, 22:18   #5
Registered User

Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Singapore
Boat: Seawind 1160 Lite
Posts: 255
Re: catamaran surfs into rocks

Oouuch.... Hard to watch this without cringing
__________________
Andrew Grace is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-2016, 22:20   #6
Registered User
 
sergiofil's Avatar

Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Jakarta
Boat: Orca 43
Posts: 11
Re: catamaran surfs into rocks

I doubt that the rudder could be effective being probably out of water with midship on the top of the surf. I wonder if keeping the daggerboard down would have been helpful in staying the course
__________________
sergiofil is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-03-2016, 01:30   #7
Registered User

Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Guam, USA
Boat: 1993 Horstman Tristar trimaran, 46'
Posts: 41
Re: catamaran surfs into rocks

Quote:
Originally Posted by 44'cruisingcat View Post


Friends of ours experienced something similar, and were heading for a rock wall. Out of desperation he turned the wheel the other way, steered INTO the wave (which would go against every instinct.).


Amazingly, the boat turned up and over the wave, and apart from some broken crockery, was fine. When he was telling me, I wondered if I would have that presence of mind in that situation. I don't know.
A couple of weeks ago I was kitesurfing a similar looking channel on Guam. Once of the coming in fishing charters got picked up by a wave did the exact same thing. I was the only kiter in the water and saw the whole thing. He got turned 90 degrees on his side and did the right thing by turning into the wave. I was amazed nobody got thrown off the boat but indeed turned up and over the same wave that took him out. He came within a few feet of the rocks though. But he made it out.
__________________
captaingregger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-03-2016, 01:47   #8
Registered User

Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 193
Re: catamaran surfs into rocks

after being broadsided wouldn't you would need some forward motion to give the rudders some bite?
Too cautious with the engines?
__________________
UpOnStands is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-03-2016, 03:02   #9
Marine Service Provider

Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 103
Re: catamaran surfs into rocks

This is a great lesson to be learned for people not experienced on cats like myself

Note to myself, if it doesn't respond one way try the other!


Sent from my iPhone using Cruisers Sailing Forum
__________________
gunnado is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-03-2016, 03:18   #10
Registered User

Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Sydney
Boat: Lagoon 400
Posts: 1,103
Re: catamaran surfs into rocks

Quote:
Originally Posted by gunnado View Post
This is a great lesson to be learned for people not experienced on cats like myself

Note to myself, if it doesn't respond one way try the other!


Sent from my iPhone using Cruisers Sailing Forum
maybe better write down: deploy small parachute before crossing bar to aid steering.

these bars are really dangerous.
__________________
arsenelupiga is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-03-2016, 04:26   #11
Registered User
 
Delancey's Avatar

Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Miami, FL
Boat: sunk by irma
Posts: 3,464
Re: catamaran surfs into rocks

Quote:
Originally Posted by 44'cruisingcat View Post
Friends of ours experienced something similar, and were heading for a rock wall. Out of desperation he turned the wheel the other way, steered INTO the wave (which would go against every instinct.).
I watched an event similar to the video unfold in Ribadesella which similarly could have been avoided by rounding up. In this case it was a mono running parralel to a seawall below a cliff under under main and jib.

A big puff of wind came out of nowhere causing the boat to broach. The helmsman attempted to fight the boat and drive it down rather than letting it fully round up. As a result the course made good was perpendicular to the wall and SMACK!

No injuries other than pride but the pulpit got destroyed and I imagine there was an extensive gelcoat repair required. Forget hindsight, I knew as it was happening what was going to happen and that he should have just let the boat do what it wanted and not fight it.

If he had instead thrown the tiller over to leeward (which is easy) instead of pulling on it (which is hard) he would have come around head to wind with a back winded jib that would have pushed him off on the other tack, away from danger.

It was sort of painful to watch.
__________________
Delancey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-03-2016, 04:35   #12
Registered User
 
Delancey's Avatar

Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Miami, FL
Boat: sunk by irma
Posts: 3,464
Re: catamaran surfs into rocks

Here is the entrance in the above video. Looks like the skipper in the video followed a course similar to the course of the powerboat in the satellite image, over a reef when he could have been lined up with the channel better and in deeper water.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	image.jpg
Views:	565
Size:	452.7 KB
ID:	119958  
__________________
Delancey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-03-2016, 05:13   #13
Senior Cruiser
 
Blue Stocking's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: St. Georges, Bda
Boat: Rhodes Reliant 41ft
Posts: 4,117
Re: catamaran surfs into rocks

" Always steer into the skid "
__________________
so many projects--so little time !!
Blue Stocking is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-03-2016, 05:24   #14
Registered User

Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 193
Re: catamaran surfs into rocks

photo of similar size cat in similar weather, entering same channel
https://www.google.com/maps/@19.6692...8!8i2736?hl=en
__________________
UpOnStands is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-03-2016, 05:48   #15
Registered User
 
Delancey's Avatar

Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Miami, FL
Boat: sunk by irma
Posts: 3,464
Re: catamaran surfs into rocks

Quote:
Originally Posted by UpOnStands View Post
photo of similar size cat in similar weather, entering same channel
https://www.google.com/maps/@19.6692...8!8i2736?hl=en
Unless i am missing so ething this looks like a link to the same goggle maps image I posted above, that's a power boat not a cat.
__________________

__________________
Delancey is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
catamaran

Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Multihull Sailor Surfs In............... thomm225 Multihull Sailboats 10 28-04-2015 17:21
Beware of Rocks ... FLOATING Rocks! David_Old_Jersey Cruising News & Events 13 15-08-2012 01:34
Ship Smashes Into Rocks...Great Picture Colorado Dreamer General Sailing Forum 5 13-10-2008 16:43
US Yachtie hits rocks in NZ Alan Wheeler Cruising News & Events 143 03-07-2008 17:32
Sailing Yacht 'Scarf' Wrecks on Rocks in Lake Worth Inlet on Way to Bahamas Ram Cruising News & Events 19 06-01-2008 21:42



Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 23:52.


Google+
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.