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Old 15-08-2014, 00:43   #1
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Catamaran between 50-60

I have been doing some research into Catamarans between 50-60. I plan to use it along the Southern Coastline of Australia with the view to take it through the South Pacific for 2 years.

This might create a few negatives posts, however, I am just looking for the opinions of other sailors on this forum. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated and I look forward on reading everyone view.
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Old 15-08-2014, 03:22   #2
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Re: Catamaran between 50-60

G'day Brow,

Need more info from you. For example, what's your budget? A cheap 60ft cat about 800k. A top of the range 60ft cat millions. So you see it depends on what you can afford. How much sailing experience have you got? How many crew? Big boats are big budget to keep in the water and running. As far as sailing in the South of Australia is no problem and cruising the Pacific is not an issue for even a 30 or 40ft boat. Let us know what your experience and budget is and us on the forum could give you some ideas.
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Old 15-08-2014, 03:43   #3
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Re: Catamaran between 50-60

Thank you so much for the response. I do have a bigger budget and I do have a partner whom would crew. When I do my Pacific trip, I do have an extra crew as it will be a four person trip. I do have experience but like most, we are always looking to expand our skills. I am happy to look at a smaller size than 50 but I am looking for a little extra space.
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Old 15-08-2014, 04:55   #4
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Re: Catamaran between 50-60

I've been shopping as well and settled on the leopard 48 it's a bigger boat than you can imagine take a look


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Re: Catamaran between 50-60

G'day Brow,
Have you considered taking a trip on a charter cat? I saw a blog of a French couple who have a 47ft cat in the Philippines sailing it to The Whitsunday's in Australia. They were looking for crew and asking $100 p/day p/p and sailing through some of the most unspoilt beautiful islands in the world. At the same time, you would get a feel for a cat around the 50ft mark. I think their cat is a 2012 and they are looking to sell it. - http://www.alive.cms4people.de Of course it depends on what you want once again. Big and heavy equals slow and with light winds the cat will stick in the water and go nowhere without starting the engines. The last few years cat designers are paying more attention to power to weight ratios. So look carefully at what is available and make a list of needs and wants. Put it together and start shopping, but I think you are going to need more than 2 years in the Pacific. I've got friends who are out there and have been there for 10 years without going to the same area very often.
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Old 16-08-2014, 15:38   #6
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Here's a sweet looking one listed on CF
http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/...an-131175.html
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Re: Catamaran between 50-60

I love Catana 50. Carbon stick, no spreaders. Very good boats.

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Catana are a nice boat but a little heavy once they get up to the 50 foot

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I love Catana 50. Carbon stick, no spreaders. Very good boats.

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Catana are a nice boat but a little heavy once they get up to the 50 foot

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Catana 50s are only heavy up to hull #30, you can knock 3500kgs (almost 20% reduction) or more on hulls 31 onwards. Different ball game.
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Re: Catamaran between 50-60

The Catana 59 is, according to the manufacturer, 18.9 tonne, the FP 57 is 18.8 tonne, by contrast the outremer 5X is 13.1 tonne (all lightships). Tag 60 - 16 tonne.

The catana may very well be a good boat but its weight will limit its performance
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Re: Catamaran between 50-60

Agreed Catanas are bring their weights down as well. As in my earlier post, they are a very nice boat. If you look at the link to the blog site I posted of the Baramundi 49 and do a weight comparison to say a Catana or a Voyage 50 like I have, you will see the point I was making about catamarans being weight conscious. The crazy thing is they have a similar sail plan to a 50 footer and come in at about 6 ton. Would have to be a consideration for anybody purchasing a new boat.
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My Catana 50 has spreaders
Good on ya.

Is it a carbon stick too?

Must be another production year or an option then.

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The Catana 59 is, according to the manufacturer, 18.9 tonne, the FP 57 is 18.8 tonne, by contrast the outremer 5X is 13.1 tonne (all lightships). Tag 60 - 16 tonne.

The catana may very well be a good boat but its weight will limit its performance



The Outremer 51 & 5X represent good value for money they are a light Production Boat in comparison to their main opposition , And have to be one of the favourites!


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The Catana 59 is, according to the manufacturer, 18.9 tonne, the FP 57 is 18.8 tonne, by contrast the outremer 5X is 13.1 tonne (all lightships). Tag 60 - 16 tonne.

The catana may very well be a good boat but its weight will limit its performance
This assumes they all have the same SA/Displacement, the same foil and rig efficiency, the same hull shape, (...)

Weight is a performance factor only together with other factors, never as a standalone.

Weight may either limit or ENHANCE performance - e.g. by creating more inertia force.

Inertia is your friend e.g. when beating in choppy waters.

Better leave the whole weight issue well alone unless it is grossly excessive.

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