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Old 05-01-2011, 16:07   #16
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This Wharram 23 I built about 35 years ago, was great for a young man. It was quite fast and beachable. (Although they do side slip).

If I had only gotten as far as making a deck tent that would connect one hull to the other at anchor... Then they become comfortable.
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Mark.... what you cant see in those pics is the rolled up section that extends to the main aft beam at an upward slant so on the hook the whole cetre deck and cabin hatches were under cover... you couldn't stand but you were dry and snug.. 4'6"

Nice Hinemoa by the way....
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Old 05-01-2011, 16:55   #18
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There was a Cherokee 35 for sale in Texas for $40,000. I don't know how much work it needs but would be a good choice for a blue water boat. Also some of the old Prout 35's go for below $50,000.
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I just ran a search for catamarans under $100,000 on yachtworld and did not find any for sale. However, there are several listed, of all makes, just over $100,000. The problem is that only a broker can tell you the actual sales prices of the boats.

There have been buying boat discussions in other threads in this forum. The general consensus, it seems, is that one should offer 1/2 the list price and that boats generally sell 20% below the list price. It depends greatly on how much the seller wants to sell.

Take a look at what you need in a boat and what you want. Make sure that you have either cash or financing then make an offer.

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I think it would be a good idea to research the boat and it's value before you make an offer of half the asking price. You may end up insulting the owner and ruining your bargaining options. It's true boats are selling for less now and I don't think there is a set rule that boats are selling for 20% of their asking price. It all depends on the asking price.
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Actually, if you go to yachtworld dot com and do a refined search for used sail multihulls for $10000-$50000 US you will be surprised at how many show up--probably around 50, though many are in Europe.
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Low cost cat

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This looks like it fits your size and budget:

1972 Sailcraft Iroquois 30' MkII $26,500

Aeroyacht Ltd. (Setauket Harbor, NY)
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If you want a serious sailing production Cat..... the Iroquois 9 metre is the way to go.... daggerboards will let you crawl up shallow creeks or cross oceans... sweet boats that still hold their own 30-40yrs on


I love them but I'm over 4' tall.
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I love them but I'm over 4' tall.
LOL.... so's everyone who owns one..
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Catalac for smaller production boat built like a tank.
Gemini for more mass produced boat. - many on the market.
Maybe a Catfisher in that price range.
Some of the old Prouts may be worth a look.

Wharram for plan built boats.

The thing that concerns me about the Iroquois, is that many have tipped over.
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LOL..... thats why most of them have a big inflatable float on the top of the mast... but I think you'll find it was usually when racing and/or doing something silly like to much sail in a big beam sea... folks were still learning back then and Wharram was the only one who'd got the beam-length ratio figured out...
Prouts, Catalac's and Iroquois were all to narrow in the beam for their length which makes them vulnerable to more things than todays designs... Iroquois were the lightest and fastest and for some one who don't mind luxury camping... low headroom she's a great cruiser
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There were quite a few Iroquois that tipped but most of those were the Mark1 model. They changed the hull design for the Mark2 and made them less tippy. I agree the Prouts, Catalacs etc. Are rather skinny in the beam but with their lack of sail area are still quite seaworthy.
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I'm not saying they're not good sea boats... all have done E-W crossings and some have made it back as well... bar Catalac's I think... but they're slow... the catalac's hull speed is only 7kts... I've done that in my Corribee 21 mono...
The Prouts not much faster... the Iroquois the greyhound with less slam area underneath and set further back... reduces any braking forces..
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