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Old 21-01-2015, 19:53   #31
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It's sailing. The sail is on the clothes line.
What kind of sail is that? T shirt or skirt storm sail? lol Boats cranking with that sail
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Old 21-01-2015, 19:58   #32
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Monte, you don't eat that nasty veggymite and drink horrible Bundaburge like your fellow countrymen made me drink up here in Long Island NY do you? You don't need to drink and eat the prison food the Brits sent your ancestors down there with over a century ago. That **** is nasty. Try some strawberry preserves ok. I'll send you some.
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Old 21-01-2015, 20:40   #33
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Just curious about the cat video. I am a mono hull owner and I'm not trying to be a smart ass, but is the fact that cats can flip the reason this cat is motoring and not sailing with reefed or very little sail at all? I don't get it. Why wouldn't a tri sail or a small storm jib be up?
In 60 knots of wind he's sailing under bare poles, as would most cruising monos. He also appears to be towing a drogue on a bridle - very prudent, as even so he states hitting >30 knots on a surf.
Mono or cat, unless your waterline length approaches or exceeds the wave length, in those conditions sailing under the wave in front of you is a bit of a concern, hence the stern drogue.
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I must of missed something? Do they say 60 knots in the video and that just looked like a line with knots in it to me. I've been in worse stuff off Cape Fear
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Re: Cat destroyed in Melbourne

I just watched that video again to see, he does say 60 knots at the end, but the caps aren't even blowing off the tops of the waves. Slight exaggeration I fear. I'd like to see the 700 lb tuna he caught too. Anyway I'll shut up now I don't feel like getting into it.
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I just watched that video again to see, he does say 60 knots at the end, but the caps aren't even blowing off the tops of the waves. Slight exaggeration I fear. I'd like to see the 700 lb tuna he caught too. Anyway I'll shut up now I don't feel like getting into it.
Speed, yeah,its a moot point, since there's no way of proving.

I suspected a drogue of the Jordan cone type, where you only would see the line leading to the series of cones, because if he's just trailing a line, why the bridle?

I often wonder why, of the many sailors who make videos of their storm experiences, more don't simply include a close up of their instrument readings. It would be much more impressive. Surely the camera isn't a fixed mount.
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Speed, yeah,its a moot point, since there's no way of proving.

I suspected a drogue of the Jordan cone type, where you only would see the line leading to the series of cones, because if he's just trailing a line, why the bridle?

I often wonder why, of the many sailors who make videos of their storm experiences, more don't simply include a close up of their instrument readings. It would be much more impressive. Surely the camera isn't a fixed mount.
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Re: Cat destroyed in Melbourne

Gotcha, but that is a free advertisement posted by Leopard. The numbers would be put in a favorable light to promote a build of theirs. Anyway just saying. Thought it was just knots trailing. I'm done night all
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Yep, cause all cat owners are liars right?


Anyway I measured those waves, and they're barely 10 inches. On a 14 inch screen. Held my hand next to the screen, and yeah, there's hardly any wind at all.


Lying wussies.
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Yes idy, I'm guilty of vegemite consumption as well as the occasional bundy, although I tend to avoid that stuff. This Caribbean rum is the real thing /)
There's another thread on here discussing the cat video and the general co census was that the wind in the. Vid is closer to 40K, but probably stronger at times on passage as the skipper said. The bridle is 100m warp with a loop in the end. Some more detAils on the YouTube page in the comments section. It also states 30K surfs but I have trouble getting my head around that one. I'd be interested to hear if any cat sailors have come anywhere near that speed surfing..it seems OTT..
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Re: Cat destroyed in Melbourne

Just to clarify again, the vessel was a Fountaine Pajot Marquises 56.

The owner was out on his bike visiting his doctor when the fire "accidentally" started. A strange word to use as an accident would imply that you were on the boat at the time. A fault or similar I wouldn't have called an accident.
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Just to clarify again, the vessel was a Fountaine Pajot Marquises 56.

The owner was out on his bike visiting his doctor when the fire "accidentally" started. A strange word to use as an accident would imply that you were on the boat at the time. A fault or similar I wouldn't have called an accident.
Accidental as opposed to deliberate I'd guess.
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Re: Cat destroyed in Melbourne

On the other forum there was a thread about a different boat's build problems but went on to include a new FP 56 that was the center of a nasty lawsuit in the US. Eventually they say it was sold and taken to Oz. Could this be the same one?
The thread is titled "A New catamaran not fit to sail" Post #8.
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