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Old 21-01-2015, 00:21   #16
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Check out this little cat

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Old 21-01-2015, 01:26   #17
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i expect he was just being sarcastic being as his tag says he sails a Lagoon 400.

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not sarcastic. before buying just read all these horrible stories about cats.

One serious book about heavy weather sailing i was reading: cats are not seaworthy as there is no way to avoid flip so nothing to teach. Done deal. Go back to real stuff - monos.

Just did not match reality and left me deeply scarred.

Still bought cat

Looks like other people do go out there.

On my surprise my L 400 goes well against weather in around 4 ft short seas and 25 kn. Outrunning some monos and lets not start about comfort.
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Old 21-01-2015, 04:10   #18
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We sail south of Melb often, last January's trip to Tassie only took 22 hrs,lots of fun in this part of the world.
Just have to always be watching out for icebergs though!


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Old 21-01-2015, 04:43   #19
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We sail south of Melb often, last January's trip to Tassie only took 22 hrs,lots of fun in this part of the world.
Just have to always be watching out for icebergs though!


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great ride ! I want to do this too !!!

joking about icebergs ?

willing to share any hint how to handle confused seas in cat ? there must be plenty of these in bass strait.
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Old 21-01-2015, 04:46   #20
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Sorry to hear about fire in Melbourne, it is good that nobody was hurt. I hope they find out what caused it.

I know of at least one Catana 471 that rounded Cape Horn. My cat (Lagoon) was sailed almost to Alaska. OK, mostly inside passage, but still. Why would anyone say <30?
95% of the time you don't sail the inside passage to Alaska, you motor it. Sailboats less than 20 feet have made that journey as well as small motor boats.
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Old 21-01-2015, 06:49   #21
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Re: Cat destroyed in Melbourne

Thanks Robert, are there also a number of sailboats under 20 feet and small motor boats that round Cape Horn? Anyway, your point (apart from your typical efforts at attempting to undermine anything positive said about a catamaran) is?
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I'm only a few K's away. I saw the vessel before the burn and I remarked that I'd seen the vessel in Noumea about 3 years ago. At that time it had just been bought and some of our crew slept on it while our skipper spat the dummy but thats another story.
Yes there is grief that we all should feel, on local TV flick, it showed the owner looking distraught and looked very salty and sad, apparently a blue water dream down the toilet.
If I wonder over to Royal Melbourne I may find out more. If I remember rightly they planned to sail to Perth from Noumea.
Yes bigger than 40 more like 48 but its been a while.
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Sorry to hear about fire in Melbourne, it is good that nobody was hurt. I hope they find out what caused it.

I know of at least one Catana 471 that rounded Cape Horn. My cat (Lagoon) was sailed almost to Alaska. OK, mostly inside passage, but still. Why would anyone say <30?
only me reading books ? this was most positive statement. saying that maybe cats can be actually used in <30 - tropics. where trade winds blowing 10 to 15 kn from behind and motoring if less wind, providing they stay far away from cyclones.
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Now you tell me. The photo in my avatar was taken spitting distance from 60N.
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Now you tell me. The photo in my avatar was taken spitting distance from 60N.
COOL !!

thks for improving my confidence in cats
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Now you tell me. The photo in my avatar was taken spitting distance from 60N.
How did you ever survive that passage?

I followed your blog from Thailand up to Japan and across to Alaska.

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not sarcastic. before buying just read all these horrible stories about cats.

One serious book about heavy weather sailing i was reading: cats are not seaworthy as there is no way to avoid flip so nothing to teach. Done deal. Go back to real stuff - monos.

Just did not match reality and left me deeply scarred.

Still bought cat

Looks like other people do go out there.

On my surprise my L 400 goes well against weather in around 4 ft short seas and 25 kn. Outrunning some monos and lets not start about comfort.
Sorry about that but you will find there are many monohull sailors particually here on this forum that will suggest that cats are unseaworthy and float best upside down. Absolutely no reason to be deeply sarred.

My personal experience with a L400 is they are very seaworthy with a gentle motion (not stiff). No reason it will not perform similarly to the Leopard 39 in this video.

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Re: Cat destroyed in Melbourne

Just curious about the cat video. I am a mono hull owner and I'm not trying to be a smart ass, but is the fact that cats can flip the reason this cat is motoring and not sailing with reefed or very little sail at all? I don't get it. Why wouldn't a tri sail or a small storm jib be up?
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It's sailing. The sail is on the clothes line.
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Thanks Robert, are there also a number of sailboats under 20 feet and small motor boats that round Cape Horn? Anyway, your point (apart from your typical efforts at attempting to undermine anything positive said about a catamaran) is?
My point was nothing about Cats, it would be the same for a mono hull. It is no big deal to sail north up the inside passage, most times it could be done with a dinghy....that was my point!
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