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Old 25-01-2013, 16:38   #16
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only in lala land
And in Thailand by Seascape.
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Old 25-01-2013, 16:45   #17
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Wharram Tiki?

He said circumnavigations, not day tours from Waikiki beach!
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Old 25-01-2013, 17:08   #18
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Wharram Tiki?

He said circumnavigations, not day tours from Waikiki beach!
AFAIK a Tiki 21 is the smallest multihull to have ever circumnavigated, and I would bet that more Wharram designs have done so than any other.
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Old 25-01-2013, 17:11   #19
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Yeah well you can fly a trike / micro light around the world with a 50hp 2-stroke but that doesn't mean it's safe or good for the masses.
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Old 25-01-2013, 17:50   #20
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FWIW your requirements sound ideally to suited to an L440...and there are plenty of L440's out there so you might find some selection, even in your price range. A quick look suggests not a lot of negotiating would bring a number of L440's into your price range.


Our experience (admittedly limited to our L440) confirms...
  • It is a VERY seaworthy vessel. We put ~20,000nm under our hulls thus far, including some very serious conditions, and always felt safe.
  • It is very roomy and would easily accomodate a family.
  • It is very well laid out for life 'on the hook' with multiple living areas...saloon, cockpit, flybridge, forward cockpit...which we found great for finding 'space' when on anchor.
Anyway, food for thought...and good luck with your search!
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Old 26-01-2013, 03:22   #21
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And in Thailand by Seascape.
No chance, talk to them and get a quote. Seascape builds a nice boat. They don't give them away.
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Old 26-01-2013, 03:29   #22
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Ausaviator. The Wharram designs may not please everybody and their weather performance is not brilliant. They are also some of the most seaworthy multihull designs around. The hulls shapes give nothing away to accomadations or style. They are built as boats to sail places ,not primarily as a dockside cottage. If they don't appeal to you thats OK just spend your money on another design. It is supposed to turn you on.
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He said circumnavigations, not day tours from Waikiki beach!
You obviously haven't seen a Tiki 46 or a Pahi 52 have you?
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Wharram Tiki?

He said circumnavigations, not day tours from Waikiki beach!
Wharrams reflect a design philosophy that puts seaworthiness first and foremost, at the expense of accomodation. They are simple, solid and it may be that more Wharrams have safely circumnavigated than any other design. Back in the '70's and '80's you couldn't cast a lead line without hitting a Wharram or Searunner that was circumnavigating with a young family aboard.

Sadly, as Boatsmith pointed out, quality doesn't come cheap. But good deals can be had on used Wharrams.

Wharram Pahi 52 for sale (ref 1245)

If I recall, there was a beautiful Tiki 46 for sale in Langkawi recently within the OP's budget.
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Old 28-01-2013, 18:30   #26
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Wharram = Malaysian pirate vessel / Chinese Junk. I think the newest generation of cruisers these days prefer something that doesn't "look" like it will sink in the first storm that hits it.
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Wharram = Malaysian pirate vessel / Chinese Junk. I think the newest generation of cruisers these days prefer something that doesn't "look" like it will sink in the first storm that hits it.
Never did tell us what brand of multihull you own.
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Wharram = Malaysian pirate vessel / Chinese Junk. I think the newest generation of cruisers these days prefer something that doesn't "look" like it will sink in the first storm that hits it.
I think you may be happier with a Miami Bitch condo. :-)
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Yes that's right, I didn't. This thread is about 250k cats, not about me or your 10 metre weekender, unless you think that the thread starter should spend 250k of their hard earned on a Seawind 1000, that would be their choice.
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Yes that's right, I didn't. This thread is about 250k cats, not about me or your 10 metre weekender, unless you think that the thread starter should spend 250k of their hard earned on a Seawind 1000, that would be their choice.
Would be money well spent.
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