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Old 13-12-2009, 04:19   #16
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Fully understand the UK government's constitutional rights re, the BVI since 2007.
Do understand that the move by the BVI to utilize the MCA's authority is based on self interest. Golden egg geese are being killed off in most cruising areas - Big brother displays little care.
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No matter what our kids and the new generation think about us, WE ARE AWESOME !!!!
OUR LIFE IS LIVING PROOF !!!!
To Those of Us Born 1930 - 1979
At the end of this, is a quote of the month by Jay Leno. If you don't read anything else, please read what he said.

"TO ALL THE KIDS WHO SURVIVED THE 1930's, 40's, 50's, 60's and 70's!!

First, we survived being born to mothers who smoked and/or drank while they were pregnant.

They took aspirin, ate blue cheese dressing, tuna from a can and didn't get tested for diabetes.

Then after that trauma, we were put to sleep on our tummies in baby cribs covered with bright colored lead-base paints.

We had no childproof lids on medicine bottles, locks on doors or cabinets and when we rode our bikes, we had baseball caps not helmets on our heads.

As infants & children, we would ride in cars with no car seats, no booster seats, no seat belts, no air bags, bald tires and sometimes no brakes.

Riding in the back of a pick- up truck on a warm day was always a special treat.

We drank water from the garden hose and not from a bottle.

We shared one soft drink with four friends, from one bottle and no one actually died from this.

We ate cupcakes made with Lard, white bread, real butter and bacon. We drank FLAV-OR- AID made with real white sugar. And, we weren't overweight. WHY?

Because we were always outside playing....that's why!

We would leave home in the morning and play all day, as long as we were back when the streetlights came on.. No one was able to reach us all day. And, we were OKAY.

We would spend hours building our go-carts out of scraps and then ride them down the hill, only to find out we forgot the brakes. After running into the bushes a few times, we learned to solve the problem

We did not have Play stations, Nintendo's and X-boxes. There were no video games, no 150 channels on cable, no video movies or DVD's, no surround-sound or CD's, no cell phones, no personal computers, no Internet and no chat rooms.

WE HAD FRIENDS and we went outside and found them!

We fell out of trees, got cut, broke bones and teeth and there were no lawsuits from these accidents.
We would get spankings with wooden spoons, switches, ping pong paddles, or just a bare hand and no one would call child services to report abuse.

We ate worms and mud pies made from dirt, and the worms did not live in us forever.

We were given BB guns for our 10th birthdays, made up games with sticks and tennis balls and, although we were told it would happen, we did not put out very many eyes.

We rode bikes or walked to a friend's house and knocked on the door or rang the bell, or just walked in and talked to them.

Little League had tryouts and not everyone made the team. Those who didn't had to learn to deal with disappointment.

Imagine that!!

The idea of a parent bailing us out if we broke the law was unheard of. They actually sided with the law!

These generations have produced some of the best risk-takers, problem solvers and inventors ever.

The past 50 years have been an explosion of innovation and new ideas. What can kids today do besides push buttons..

We had freedom, failure, success and responsibility, and we learned how to deal with it all.

If YOU are one of them, CONGRATULATIONS!

You might want to share this with others who have had the luck to grow up as kids, before the lawyers and the government regulated so much of our lives for our own good.

Just like the BVI government

While you are at it, forward it to your kids so they will know how brave and lucky their parents were.

Kind of makes you want to run through the house with scissors, doesn't it ? "

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'With hurricanes, tornados, fires out of control, mud slides, flooding, severe thunderstorms tearing up the country from one end to another, and with the threat of bird flu and terrorist attacks, are we sure this is a good time to take God out of the Pledge of Allegiance?'
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Old 13-12-2009, 04:24   #17
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Good stuff, which one were you on?

As I mentioned before, in this scenario stability is only in question if the buoyancy is compromised and the boat is heavily laden beyond the original specs (which is some of them out there).
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Old 13-12-2009, 04:50   #18
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Good stuff, which one were you on?

As I mentioned before, in this scenario stability is only in question if the buoyancy is compromised and the boat is heavily laden beyond the original specs (which is some of them out there).
Caribcat, thanks , not sure about "which one were you one"????

In the meantime the official BVI site re their registry, carefully declines to provide fees :- Virgin Islands Shipping Registry
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We must have posted at the same time. That was aimed at the previous poster -I was merely enquiring which charter cat he had just returned from.

I agree with you, it is self interest. They want safe, non polluting boats in the area and it goes hand in hand with assisting the boats that provide the territory the most income. Among many other things, these boats will use holding tanks and probably not anchor on the reef!

Anyway, we are way off topic here. I aimed the thread to be an informative one for those who are or maybe operating cats in the area. Let's leave the politics for another time.
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Caribcat, don't believe we are off topic - if one digests the content of shipping registry :- Virgin Islands Shipping Registry
Having the above registry under the direct supervision of the government's Premier, not a civil servant and the registry having control of vessel certification. Not a question of politics but rather looking at the objectives behind the enforcement of these rules.
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Caribcat, don't believe we are off topic - if one digests the content of shipping registry :- Virgin Islands Shipping Registry
Having the above registry under the direct supervision of the government's Premier, not a civil servant and the registry having control of vessel certification. Not a question of politics but rather looking at the objectives behind the enforcement of these rules.
I think you'll find that the objective is to keep the recently obtained Class A Shipping Registry status - which could be removed on the say of the Brit Government if UK standards are not maintained. The fact that it spills down to the Mom and Pop Crewed Cat market is just tough luck.

In a similar way, we would have had a seaplane service in operation except the CAA (the Brit equiv of the FAA) requires a firefighting boat to be in attendance at each take-off and landing.

The fact that the registry is under the direct control of the Premier is not really unusual in a small Overseas Territory: the day to day operations are run by Captain Pat and his gang. In the same way, in UK, although things are run by civil servants - it is the Government Minister who bears the responsibility. With not many Government Ministers, you will see that the Premier actually has a great many areas under his direct responsibility.
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update anyone?

So where are folks at with this these days. February deadline looming. We are a US flagged boat and run out of St Thomas. 6 pack charters. The clearing houses have nothing but rumors to offer. The BVI website is worse. Anyone successfully passed these new regulations? Or should I say old, but now trying to enforce, regulations.

Did you get a BVI captains license?

Did you get BVI radio license?

We are CE rated boat. I belive this exempts us from the stability testing. Anyone been through that?

What kind of fees does this run into?

Are you US or Brit flagged? Or other?

And, I would like to add, what a PITA!!!!
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So where are folks at with this these days. February deadline looming. We are a US flagged boat and run out of St Thomas. 6 pack charters. The clearing houses have nothing but rumors to offer. The BVI website is worse. Anyone successfully passed these new regulations? Or should I say old, but now trying to enforce, regulations.

Did you get a BVI captains license?

Did you get BVI radio license?

We are CE rated boat. I belive this exempts us from the stability testing. Anyone been through that?

What kind of fees does this run into?

Are you US or Brit flagged? Or other?

And, I would like to add, what a PITA!!!!
Im also wondering.. We have a BVI flagged boat that currently is pleasure only but a few of our activities (moving small cargo for our business between islands) and some future plans clearly could be interpreted as SCV... we meet all the regulations required in the country that we operate... but since we are BVI flagged, I guess MCA might be applicable to us as well?
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