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Old 02-10-2008, 08:32   #91
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Old 02-10-2008, 08:42   #92
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Look, it is a lovely boat, the owners seem happy, maybe Gideon made a buck or two, maybe not. At the end of the day, it weighs what it weighs.

Performance will be measured this year when several Fastcats sail the ARC. I suspect the factory boat will perform well, the cruisers will have a bit of fun and finish as the waterline speed allows. My guess for the kruuzers: 7 to 7.7 knots for the trip average, my guess for the factory boat: 7.5 to 8.2 knots for the trip average......
Hallo Joli

I think that will be next year for all these FastCats to join in the ARC
The only one I know of is the original prototype that will make the crossing this year
The new Green Motion is not ready yet and after she is ready we will first test her extensively.

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Andreas "settingsail2009" will sail his 435 just before ARC from Canaria. Exploring the World

What i understand he likes his Fastcat very much. I will follow his blog around the world.
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any builder who is getting his boat within 5% of predicted weight is doing a hell of a good job. IMHO
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They can actually be switched between KM , NM and Knots and since the earth is still measured in degrees minutes and seconds I have set mine to Sea Miles
I figured as much, Gideon - I was only teasing you. But until Lat and Long are switched to metric, the imperial system is the more "workable" system for speed and distance at sea. But we'd also have to switch to metric time as well

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any builder who is getting his boat within 5% of predicted weight is doing a hell of a good job. IMHO
:cubalibre Thatīs true... It was a thread on this site with this question and F-P, it was a very big difference on the Orana if i remember right.
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:cubalibre Thatīs true... It was a thread on this site with this question and F-P, it was a very big difference on the Orana if i remember right.
Hallo Freetime

the weight difference starts with the Naval Architect that projects a weight for any given Yacht and the builder that uses different techniques , materials , more equipment and as a result comes up with a (more often than not ) heavier yacht than predicted.
Than as the yacht is build in series weights keeps on being added since often upgrades are added , A bigger anchor winch , more chain, bigger winches added portholes more sails etc etc.
Just an example on the ( I know you do not like the word ) FastCat All 5 winches are now of a larger size than originally intended and one is now standard electric.
10 meters anchor chain and 50 meters weighted line was standard but now it is 25 and 50 meters standard , 8 portholes where standard now there are 12 , a list like this is endless and the total weight difference can be huge.

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( I know you do not like the word ) FastCat
I like the boat, but not all threads about weight and fastcat, but i read them all
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I like the boat, but not all threads about weight and fastcat, but i read them all
In that case just come and sail a FastCat . it is only one hour of flight time and you are welcome I promise you we will have a good time

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In that case just come and sail a FastCat . it is only one hour of flight time and you are welcome I promise you we will have a good time

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What Fastcat do you have in holland for testsail...?

I will contact you later...
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I have the first production Fastcat in the Netherlands

hull number 2 , not very light weight but a great Cat
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I have the first production Fastcat in the Netherlands

hull number 2 , not very light weight but a great Cat
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435 like Andreas hull nr # 1?

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435 like Andreas hull nr # 1?

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Try not to fight to much , to much energy and both always suffer , I have been there and done that
Yes like Andreas but with Improvements since Andreas has the prototype

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Try not to fight to much , to much energy and both always suffer , I have been there and done that
Yes like Andreas but with Improvements since Andreas has the prototype

Greeting and good luck

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Thanks Gideon, i want to sail the fastcat later, but i donīt know if i have money to the flight left after this year.
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