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Old 17-10-2014, 06:55   #16
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Re: Bali - Catana's new range of cruising catamarans

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I must say I quite like the look of the "loft like" interiors. They give the feeling of space, air, light. Quite sharp edges are the part of this styling.
I felt that on catamaran it is possible to accept them TO SOME EXTENT.
But on monos it is pure craziness!!!!!!!!!
Anything that moves, cars, boats planes......... Id be reluctant to have a sharp edge to that extent. Cats do heel, cats do hobby horse occasionally, cats do slip on waves..... cats move.

Sharp edges make me worry. Dont get me wrong, I like the design. Just not the edges. Rounding them wont detract from the styling.
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Old 17-10-2014, 21:53   #17
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Re: Bali - Catana's new range of cruising catamarans

14.25 T with only 1011 sq. ft. of sail area? I do not see the 42 setting any performance records.


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Old 18-10-2014, 06:01   #18
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Re: Bali - Catana's new range of cruising catamarans

No comments so far on the layout of the 4.2.

Here is a quote from their web page:
Entirely open and accessible by a sliding door which is 3.40 metres in width, it opens up to a living space of more than 30m. The forward cockpit can accommodate all the crew, and the sunbathing area is far superior to others of this size.

Given that this space (saloon and cockpit as one open space) have a large galley and only one sizable sitting area, this is a significant departure from what Lagoon/FP/Leopard is doing on any sized boat.

Combine this space with the forward area, this is layout I've been looking for.
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Old 18-10-2014, 06:15   #19
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Re: Bali - Catana's new range of cruising catamarans

Sharp edges are the vogue these days even on mono's...its much cheaper to finish the joinery using sharp edges, they work well on the docks where most of these boats spend their time.
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Re: Bali - Catana's new range of cruising catamarans

looks fine to me. Why people look down on cats for chartering ? Good charter boat proves boat is liveable.

Only concern I see is burying bows and water slow to recede from front deck.

I think in this style of boats especially lagoon, bali etc, one can find superior combination of space, performance, carrying capacity and cost. Sure, it can get it really wrong too. This is where architect skills come to play.

Adding extra knot of speed for the same space, and carrying capacity, everything else the same, will probably cost double.
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Definitely built for chartering buyer. Very livable, more than sailing. Catamaran with that much weight forward will pitch quite a bit. Great anchorage boat, I like the window forward for ventilation. Coastal cruising at it's best. Off shore not so much. Majority of boaters are not off shore sailors, so nice to see the new designs. I would not buy but understand the draw for many. Gunboat my next boat or keep what we have.

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Re: Bali - Catana's new range of cruising catamarans

Looks like another potential nice feature is keeping the dingy lower for more unobstructed views back (on the 4.2). And again the lowering transom, like on the 4.5, will add greater openness. Curious how the cabin of the 4.2 is enclosed on the sides...with eisenglass or somethiing else?


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Re: Bali - Catana's new range of cruising catamarans

went to the nautic show in paris 2 days ago and visited the 4.2...previously i was looking at a cat to live in probably and old L440 ...however bali 4.2 definitely has what i m looking for , huge (30 m2 ) living space either cockpit (open) or fully closed (by the equivalentof a "garage door" ) in other words a real flat! living space below is up to modern standards, much ore space than in a nautitech 442 for instance. the big thing which will have to be thoroughly tested is the front end without the netting..i believe that it will be ok because the boat is high in the mediteranean, probably also for a transatlantic crossing...not so sure about southern seas..

as i plan on staying on a cat in the med....i want one!!!!!!
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Any idea on price range for these puppies?

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Re: Bali - Catana's new range of cruising catamarans

sure for 4.2 base price is 335 k probably around 470k( or so the sales manager told me) with the options you need^^ add 40k more for 4.5
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Re: Bali - Catana's new range of cruising catamarans

I am told the 45 ft price will be parity to FP's Helia, apple to apple..

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Re: Bali - Catana's new range of cruising catamarans

the 4.2 is 10.2 tonne, I hope its engines are strong.
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