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Old 20-04-2019, 20:38   #16
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Re: Bali 4.8 vs Leopard 50

I love the living space of the smaller Bali's. I've never been aboard the 4.8 but the island beds look awesome. The Bali drop down salon windows are a cool feature but the Leopard trumps that with a pass through door. However, I think the Leopard 50 was my favorite cat at the boat show">Miami boat show overall. My target boat is a 2 handed live aboard so one of my requirements is the aft bulkhead helm to maintain communication and protection from the elements. The Bali with the garage door feature is pretty much limited to a flybridge helm if I'm not mistaken.

Additionally, I've heard several people complain about the build quality of the Bali's. Conversely, I think the Bali's use more expensive foam cored hulls and I think the Leopards use balsa. Many on this forum complain about the seaworthiness of the Bali due to the lack of a trampoline but if you are only doing coastal or island hopping I don't think it's an issue because the bridge deck clearance is so high.

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Old 21-04-2019, 15:18   #17
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Re: Bali 4.8 vs Leopard 50

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Wish I had some experience with the Bali. I have heard they will sail faster,
Not while the laws of physics hold !!

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Old 24-04-2019, 10:41   #18
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Re: Bali 4.8 vs Leopard 50

I was in Cape Town in January with Happy Together Randy and Lennie taking a look at their new performance Leopard 50. Have a look at their last few videos sailing this new boat in Cape Town. Itís a big boat for sure and they test sailed it in rough conditions. Iím a Leopard 40 owner and sailer.

I know nothing about about the Bali
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Old 09-05-2019, 09:56   #19
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Re: Bali 4.8 vs Leopard 50

Can't really contrast with Bali, but owned a Leopard 44 and 48 and recently moved to the 50 in the Moorings config. The new boat sails significantly better than either of the others. Points better with a slightly deeper keel even with increased height of the cabins. They reshaped the hulls a bit which may account for this, but I was amazed at the difference. We lost our 48 in Irma, but was happy to move up as the water maker, extra fridge, owners cabin were big draws for us. I can still single hand the boat when the wife wants to chill with the help of the electric winches and autopilot. We have only be in the carribbean, but have island hopped through open ocean and got much less pitching and rolling than with the other boats even in the Christmas winds/waves. I haven't been on the 45, but I would happily recommend the 50.
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Old 09-05-2019, 10:01   #20
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Re: Bali 4.8 vs Leopard 50

Thanks for the information!! We are very close to closing the deal on the 50. Just checking out finance options, locations etc.
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Old 09-05-2019, 16:49   #21
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Re: Bali 4.8 vs Leopard 50

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I believe that at one point South African boats were duty free, but that this changed. I do know that when I first brought my Leopard 45 into the US, in 2004, both the US Customs and the broker told me me it was duty free, and it had never been to the US before.
I talked to a FL customs agent just a few weeks ago, about importing a custom SA boat, and he said very clearly that it's duty free and that they file a few of these a week with customs. This duty free allowance is under an economic development program that does expire, and the current one (unless renewed) will expire in 2020 or something.
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Old 09-05-2019, 17:24   #22
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Re: Bali 4.8 vs Leopard 50

My Saona 47 has a duty of 1.5%. Certainly not a deal killer. The L50 is a lot bigger than the L48. I decided to get a cat after sailing 750 miles in my Beneteau Sense 50 against Happy Together and was impressed (with their downwind speed). Get the one you like best and like the better looking one best.

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