Cruisers Forum
 


Join CruisersForum Today

Reply
  This discussion is proudly sponsored by:
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about their products on Cruisers Forums. Advertise Here
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 30-07-2019, 04:37   #31
Do… or do not
 
s/v Jedi's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: in paradise
Boat: Sundeer 64
Posts: 9,772
Re: B&G autopilots

Quote:
Originally Posted by sailing_gal View Post
Already tried that multiple times, still cannot get Sail option to light up.
Then see if there is another way to get to the autopilot configuration. On my Triton displays I get an assistant to setup the AP when I select the AP page, but I can also go to the menu, select AP or configuration there and get different setup pages. I once had trouble proceeding because it wanted me to select drive voltage first. It’s a bit confusing.
__________________

s/v Jedi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30-07-2019, 06:35   #32
Registered User

Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Currently in Spain
Boat: Island Packet 420
Posts: 251
Re: B&G autopilots

My triton display is not displaying a sail option either when I do the configuration from there.
__________________

sailing_gal is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30-07-2019, 06:39   #33
Do… or do not
 
s/v Jedi's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: in paradise
Boat: Sundeer 64
Posts: 9,772
Re: B&G autopilots

Quote:
Originally Posted by sailing_gal View Post
My triton display is not displaying a sail option either when I do the configuration from there.
Running out of ideas you have apparent wind data on your network? Power cycle the AP computer? .... call Navico support rt
s/v Jedi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30-07-2019, 06:43   #34
Moderator
 
noelex 77's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Jul 2007
Boat: Bestevaer.
Posts: 11,696
Re: B&G autopilots

Quote:
Originally Posted by sailing_gal View Post
Already tried that multiple times, still cannot get Sail option to light up.
The first thing to check is if you have virtual rudder feedback selected.
You cannot select the sail option if this is chosen.
noelex 77 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 30-07-2019, 11:40   #35
Registered User

Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Currently in Spain
Boat: Island Packet 420
Posts: 251
Re: B&G autopilots

I finally did call Band G. It turns out the problem was which rudder sensor was selected. I did not know I had to manually select the proper one, the wrong sensor had been checked in the boxes. Nowhere in the instructions did it talk about this! At any rate, the technician at B and G helped me along and we got it sorted out, everything is working appropriately now.
sailing_gal is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30-07-2019, 12:09   #36
Registered User
 
Exile's Avatar

Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Land of Disenchantment
Boat: Bristol 47.7
Posts: 4,461
Re: B&G autopilots

Quote:
Originally Posted by sailing_gal View Post
I finally did call Band G. It turns out the problem was which rudder sensor was selected. I did not know I had to manually select the proper one, the wrong sensor had been checked in the boxes. Nowhere in the instructions did it talk about this! At any rate, the technician at B and G helped me along and we got it sorted out, everything is working appropriately now.
This is actually good to hear. There are no shortage of threads dissing (post-Navico) B&G, and much of it seems to be based on frustration with manuals and access to tech support, and not necessarily the products themselves. In fact, I recently got a harangue along these lines from a long-time pro installer, but then he's a dealer for Ray & Garmin. In any event, if B&G has improved its access to tech support for end users, I'd be more inclined to consider it when it comes time to replace my aging (pre-Navico) B&G kit which I've been quite happy with.
Exile is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 30-07-2019, 12:23   #37
Moderator
 
noelex 77's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Jul 2007
Boat: Bestevaer.
Posts: 11,696
Re: B&G autopilots

Quote:
Originally Posted by sailing_gal View Post
I finally did call Band G. It turns out the problem was which rudder sensor was selected.
That makes sense. No rudder sensor means the only option is a virtual rudder sensor and that means no sail option can be selected.

Glad it is sorted.
noelex 77 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 30-07-2019, 12:47   #38
Registered User

Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: between the devil and the deep blue sea
Boat: a sailing boat
Posts: 18,290
Re: B&G autopilots

I have used what I believe was their Triton series on a Lagoon 450.


It did not seem anything different from same age Ray or Furuno I have used before or after.



The low point was when a wind instrument failure brought the whole thing down. Huge disappointment, mostly in how Simrad managed the whole situation. We were refused to repair on our own (warranty matters) and our trip got delayed beyond repair (some crew had to fly home from a place with no airport).


Overall, their system back in 2017 was as good as any. Their service in the Caribbean is ...


Cheers,
b.
barnakiel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30-07-2019, 12:50   #39
Registered User
 
Suijin's Avatar

Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Annapolis MD; currently in Luperon DR
Boat: Valiant 40
Posts: 4,546
Re: B&G autopilots

For the record I've had very good experiences calling B&G tech support. They are polite, knowledgeable, and seem to really care about helping you out, even with gear that is no longer under warranty.
__________________
"Having a yacht is reason for being more cheerful than most." -Kurt Vonnegut
Suijin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 14-08-2019, 10:43   #40
Registered User

Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: East Coast, Canada
Boat: Big C Marine, 15 metre Catamaran
Posts: 588
Images: 2
Re: B&G autopilots

Can anyone here comment on "gust response" and "recovery", on the H5000, to me. My imagination explains it quite well, but I'd like to know whether or not they actually work, in real life.

I'm primarily concerned with multihulls for this post. The Zeus3 also has gust response, but it reacts to heel, not sudden gusts as shown on the anemometer. Or, at least, that's what I've just read.

Thanks.
Paul.
GRIT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 14-08-2019, 12:16   #41
Registered User
 
Jerry Woodward's Avatar

Join Date: May 2008
Location: Punta Gorda/Kentucky
Boat: PDQ 32 LRC
Posts: 416
Re: B&G autopilots

I installed a new N2K system last year including a Zeus 2 9" MFD, B&G 508 wind sensor, Vesper AIS, 4K radar, and a NAC 2 Autopilot Core Pack including the NAC 2 computer, rudder sensor and precision 9 compass. The NAC 2 is the same as the NAC 3 but for low current motors.

I have been very pleased with the system. Everything works together perfectly and the AP is fantastic (of course all I can compare it to is my old ST4000). I will note that it will sail to true or apparent wind. In "Auto" it will switch back and forth depending on the angle: apparent wind when the angle is <70 deg, true when the angle is >70. It also has two steering modes depending on your selected transition speed.
__________________
s/v Terrapin
May the four winds blow you safely home
Jerry Woodward is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 14-08-2019, 12:41   #42
Registered User

Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: East Coast, Canada
Boat: Big C Marine, 15 metre Catamaran
Posts: 588
Images: 2
Re: B&G autopilots

Thanks for that report.

I was ordering my H5000 autopilot yesterday, from Chicago Marine Electronics, and, even though he'd be losing money, he said I'd do just as well using the NAC-3 as I would the H5000. Though I find that hard to believe, I'm doing my research... again. The primary differences would be relatively minor, for non-racers, even for a pretty light cat.

Though, if the gust response is more "multihull responsive" on the H5000 and the recovery mode works well, I'd still prefer the H5000.

Cheers.
Paul.
GRIT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15-08-2019, 12:48   #43
Registered User

Join Date: Sep 2018
Posts: 61
Re: B&G autopilots

Thank you to all of you who posted your findings on B&G products, I was really wondering if they were worth the money and it seems indeed they are. You folks are amazing!
Gin-N-Sonic is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-09-2019, 19:00   #44
Registered User

Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: East Coast, Canada
Boat: Big C Marine, 15 metre Catamaran
Posts: 588
Images: 2
Re: B&G autopilots

I received my H5000 autopilot yesterday. I'm combining it with a Type II Raymarine Linear Drive, as I didn't want the hydraulic drive, offered by B&G. I'm not a fan of Hydraulics on boats, and have mechanical steering installed.

Lots of parts, but it'll all have to wait. We're rushing to finish many little projects, before we get the boat launched this fall.

Cheers all, and thanks for all your help.

Paul.
__________________

GRIT is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
autopilot

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
For Sale: Gyro upgrades for Autohelm & Raymarine Autopilots Capn Dan Classifieds Archive 1 28-05-2014 14:02
Autopilots and collisions Brent Swain Health, Safety & Related Gear 4 02-11-2006 07:09
ComNav Marine & NX2 Autopilots Stevens 47 Marine Electronics 11 29-10-2006 11:51
Below Deck Autopilots Pura Vida Construction, Maintenance & Refit 14 12-09-2006 15:07
Prout autopilots salorboy Multihull Sailboats 2 08-01-2006 20:27

Advertise Here


Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 08:24.


Google+
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
×

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.