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Old 14-03-2014, 13:07   #691
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Re: Atlantic Delivery

still think it is more to do with torn sails or rigging failure,due to the slow speed.

no power,no engines could infer that he has no fuel to charge the batteries,and the true situation lost in translation during a brief encounter with a ship or fishing boat who relayed the pan pan,seems more likely.
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Re: Atlantic Delivery

Don't see the relationship between electricity and speed. Think he blew out the main and is under headsail alone, or visa like that. He was making speed. Can't believe he'd be wasting fuel to get 2-4.5 or getting that speed with a jury rig.

or….maybe he is towing the pan pan
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Re: Atlantic Delivery

Hi, atoll,

Doesn't that announcement read more like a "securite" than a "panne panne"? More like a notice to mariners crossing the area to report sightings of the vessel to Mr. Delgado?

I sure hope so. A "panne panne" means something dire wrong with the vessel, and his progress has been slow, but steady for the past few days, as if he is sailing with shortened sail [sail or rig failure?].

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Re: Atlantic Delivery

Mystery deepens. That boat has twin diesels. They both broke? I can see how a long line could get tangled around sail drives. But it sounds like the electrical issue is a better bet for no engines. Anyone know what the solar panel situation is? Or what the current wind speed is at the boat location?

The hydraulic steering is either working or been by passed as the boat is maneuverable.... or...is he steering with the sails? It's one thing to have a total electrical failure, but what would that have to do with 2 knot boat speeds? Did he lose the mast?
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Hi, atoll,

Doesn't that announcement read more like a "securite" than a "panne panne"? More like a notice to mariners crossing the area to report sightings of the vessel to Mr. Delgado?

I sure hope so. A "panne panne" means something dire wrong with the vessel, and his progress has been slow, but steady for the past few days, as if he is sailing with shortened sail [sail or rig failure?].

Safe land fall to you, Boatie.

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yes probably,i found it under" navigation warnings",though i suspect it was relayed via a portugese fishing vessel,who intern relayed it to horta srt,the navtex message is only being broadcast in portugese on the portugese navtex network out of horta.

i was probably a bit hasty refering to it as a pan pan,rather than a securite messege,it is listed as neither on the navtex website in portugese,and my portugese is a bit limited.....so bear with me i was quite excited when i found it using basic portugese to wade through the 100's of messages
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Re: Atlantic Delivery

Not being a Cat type person, I obviously have no idea of this particular Vessels on board Systems, but, if for example the Batteries went dead due to a high current source from a Short circuit or other....then poor Boatman would not be able to start the engines regardless, if there were electrical Winches surely they would have a mechanical Back up.
But there may be enough juice in the Batteries to Transmit the Pan Pan via VHF for a short period......
So, the slow progress is probably due to rigging / sail issues, steering appears to be just fine...
I've read quite a few of Boatys posts and feel confident that he has the experience to get her and the crew to Horta in one piece....especially if he's running out of ciggys and getting used to drinking warm Beer....he's going to be a tired puppy.
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....especially if he's running out of ciggys and getting used to drinking warm Beer....he's going to be a tired puppy.
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I thought brits liked their beer warm. Isn't that was their thing warm beer and cricket?
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Re: Atlantic Delivery

Like all issues I suspect an event cascade. Failure of engines or electricity wouldn't in itself explain the slow speed.

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Re: Atlantic Delivery

Ann,
Whether a "Pan Pan", or a "securite"....
It's not Mr. Delgado....
It is MRCC Delgada....meaning Maritime Rescue Coordination Center, Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel, Azores...
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Doesn't that announcement read more like a "securite" than a "panne panne"? More like a notice to mariners crossing the area to report sightings of the vessel to Mr. Delgado?

I sure hope so. A "panne panne" means something dire wrong with the vessel, and his progress has been slow, but steady for the past few days, as if he is sailing with shortened sail [sail or rig failure?].

Safe land fall to you, Boatie.

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Re: Atlantic Delivery

ha ha found it in english this time!



In Force

Navigational warning

FA70
CENCOMARACORES
130459 UTC MAR 14
NAV. WARNING NR 617/14
PORTUGAL-AZORES ARCHIPELAGO
VESSEL BONNE ETOIL, TWO POB,
WHITE HULL, 1 MAST, IN VICINITY
OF POSITION 36-18.2N / 034-19.9W
SAILING BY WIND, NO ELECTRICITY,
NO COMMUNICATIONS WITH ENGINE
BREAKDOWN, DESTINATION
HORTA HARBOUR FAIAL ISLAND,
NOT REQUIRE ASSISTANCE.
REQUEST ALL SHIPS IN VICINITY TO
KEEP SHARP LOOKOUT
AND REPORT ANY SIGHTINGS TO
MRCCDELGADA:
TELF: +351 296 281 777
FAX: +351 211 938 518
ISAT PHONE +870 776 600 145
INMARSAT C 426 300 065
NAV WARNING 608/14 CANCELLED
NNNN


link here ,make your own mind up anne

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Isn't " panne" some form of bread. Surely you mean PAN, PAN

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Re: Atlantic Delivery

Atoll & GoBoatingNow,

Atoll: Thank you very much. I only speak English, Spanish and French, and was trying to muddle out the Portuguese, not too good.

GBN, sorry, French spelling, should have said Pan Pan.

Good that it is in the notice to mariners category!

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Why is it always always the ngin?
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Re: Atlantic Delivery

Anybody think Lighting? Was hit years ago in the Bahamas took out all electronics and froze the engine. As I, found out latter cracked 2 upper swags also. I do not believe Boatman would let himself run out of fuel. He has been around the block before. Bad fuel maybe. All a lot guessing . Boatman is up to the task and we will all rest easier when port is safe. All way's seems the home stretch is the hardest.
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i told you so.......so dah!
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Hi, atoll,

Doesn't that announcement read more like a "securite" than a "panne panne"? More like a notice to mariners crossing the area to report sightings of the vessel to Mr. Delgado?

I sure hope so. A "panne panne" means something dire wrong with the vessel, and his progress has been slow, but steady for the past few days, as if he is sailing with shortened sail [sail or rig failure?].

Safe land fall to you, Boatie.

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Ann... That was the same thing I was thinkin' and about to post same... Definitely a securite....



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yes probably,i found it under" navigation warnings",though i suspect it was relayed via a portugese fishing vessel,who intern relayed it to horta srt,the navtex message is only being broadcast in portugese on the portugese navtex network out of horta.

i was probably a bit hasty refering to it as a pan pan,rather than a securite messege,it is listed as neither on the navtex website in portugese,and my portugese is a bit limited.....so bear with me i was quite excited when i found it using basic portugese to wade through the 100's of messages
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Why is it always always the ngin?
Cus there komplikated.... and it take more than bananas to make 'em happy...
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