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Old 19-11-2016, 07:23   #16
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re: Atlantic 57 Catamaran Capsized

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Old 19-11-2016, 07:27   #17
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That is odd. A Leopard 57? 58? is a condo cat, an heavy boat, not a performance cat and valso a big one. It was supposed not to capsize except in extreme circumstances and the weather at that time on that place was far from extreme, not even nasty, at least regarding this information:

https://www.windytv.com/?2016-11-17-03,34.488,-80.156,5

Are we talking about that or about a Chris White 57 named Leopard? More probably, I would say and in that case it would be the 2th to turn turtle on a relatively small number of boats made.
I'm thinking that it's not a Leopard 58, given that they have a fixed 6' draft, & fat, flared hulls. While a Chris White 57 has a variable draft.
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Old 19-11-2016, 07:38   #18
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Feel free to speculate Polux.

Does any one have access to historical AIS tracking data for the good ship ALOE so we can pinpoint the rescue location?
Too late to get it from marinetraffic. They store the history about 24h or something..
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Old 19-11-2016, 07:40   #19
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might be this

http://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/...vessel:LEOPARD
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Centreboards through forward end of mini keels.

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Yes no need to speculate, that is an Atlantic 57 (by Chris White) and not a Leopard 57. The Leopard is 58 anyway.

Somebody should change the title of the thread not to induce members in error.

The only speculation is how they have managed to capsize that big cat on what it looks like almost perfect sailing conditions. No waves on the photo above and at that time the weather on the zone was apparently just fine.
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According the german site this happened 400nm north from Dominican Republic. The AIS history of the rescuing ship backs up that location..

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Looks like the 2nd A57 to turtle as previously mentioned. Cant wait to hear what the Captain, crew, or Chris White have to report on this. Im no genius but this capsizing appears to be dead smack center of the Bermuda Triangle and near the location that the El Faro cargo ship went down.
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I agree with Polux. In all fairness to Leapord the title of this thread should probably be changed.
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I've never sailed in a multihull with adjustable daggerboards - so question I have for folks more learned is... Why does it seem like both were deployed? Should only one be deployed at a time depending on tact?

Sure doesn't look good for this particular design - obviously there can always be instances of operator error, but perhaps the margin of safety for human idiocy may be too low for a cruiser.
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Old 19-11-2016, 10:55   #25
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Chris White's are performance boats...I think some cruisers forget that and are not attentive enough.

Dont know yet what happened in this case, but the account of one capsized a few years ago was like watching a bad horror movie..."No! Dont do that!"
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Whats the weather conditions when the flip happen?
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Sure doesn't look good for this particular design - obviously there can always be instances of operator error, but perhaps the margin of safety for human idiocy may be too low for a cruiser.
According to the story, a delivery trip. As I recall, the capsize of "Anna" in the Indian Ocean was also on a delivery trip.
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Whats the weather conditions when the flip happen?
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20 knts Trades and 2 meters waves??? huuuu something is really wrong here,,, another darky squall with all the canvas up???
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Back in'68 the schooner Bluenose nearly sailed herself under same area. Moderate night, sudden major wind .no time for crew to react, Fortunately sails left their bolt ropes and it was over
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