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Old 16-02-2015, 03:44   #16
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Ann - I usually agree with you but not on this one. The whole cotton pickin world knew this storm was coming and was going to be nasty. We have friends in the Bahamas and they talked about it.

Yet these guys ignored the weather and played macho and sailed into it. This in my opinion is an idiot who endangered this crew, himself, the coast guard and abandoned the boat.

This is my opinion is inexcusable.
I don't know anything about this rescue but you seem to be suggesting they deliberately and of course therefor foolishly headed out into weather with a known storm coming. How do you know they were not already out in it doing a passage and got caught?
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I don't know anything about this rescue but you seem to be suggesting they deliberately and of course therefor foolishly headed out into weather with a known storm coming. How do you know they were not already out in it doing a passage and got caught?

There were actually 2 rescues. The first was some Aussies who decided to sail directly into the path of a storm with 65k winds and 30'+ seas. And when the crap hit the fan the Coast Guard had to risk their lives to save 2 people who did some thing incredibly stupid.

The second was the NC one and the boat left Beaufort and the USA does have a pretty good weather forecasting service. They were rescured off NC so they either did not check the weather or decided to sail regardless of the weather. The front was huge and as I said above we have friends in the Bahamas that knew it was coming and tucked in for protection. If they were at sea and not really that far out, they should have seen the front coming and headed in for protection. It is not that they were in the middle of the Atlantic.

This is simple arrogance or stupidity or both.
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Oh boy. What is happening to me in my better years. I feel I am becoming to cynical after years of assessing human behavior. So lets see what we know.

Trying to sell the boat for $45K and failed to do so.

Went to SC and spent even more money and decided to raise the price, let me guise no takers.

In one sales promotion said the boat was insured for a cost of $850 a year.

An experienced sailor takes his unsold yet insured boat which is now becoming a financial anchor around his neck out into the Atlantic in the middle of a known storm.

Please help me before I say anything more. I am way too cynical.
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Oh boy. What is happening to me in my better years. I feel I am becoming to cynical after years of assessing human behavior. So lets see what we know.

Trying to sell the boat for $45K and failed to do so.

Went to SC and spent even more money and decided to raise the price, let me guise no takers.

In one sales promotion said the boat was insured for a cost of $850 a year.

An experienced sailor takes his unsold yet insured boat which is now becoming a financial anchor around his neck out into the Atlantic in the middle of a known storm.

Please help me before I say anything more. I am way too cynical.

I had been wondering myself just how insurance may factor into these decisions, maybe not intentionally going into the storm to collect, but if you find yourself there, maybe thinking insurance will buy the boat helps in the abandonment decision?
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Oh boy. What is happening to me in my better years. I feel I am becoming to cynical after years of assessing human behavior. So lets see what we know.



Trying to sell the boat for $45K and failed to do so.



Went to SC and spent even more money and decided to raise the price, let me guise no takers.



In one sales promotion said the boat was insured for a cost of $850 a year.



An experienced sailor takes his unsold yet insured boat which is now becoming a financial anchor around his neck out into the Atlantic in the middle of a known storm.



Please help me before I say anything more. I am way too cynical.

The boat has sold since it was advertised here by a member. The new owner had the boat up for sale.
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The boat has sold since it was advertised here by a member. The new owner had the boat up for sale.
Phew. Thanks for the update. I'll put my cynicism back into the box for now.
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Must have been different tax dollars to rescue this lot.
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There were actually 2 rescues. The first was some Aussies who decided to sail directly into the path of a storm with 65k winds and 30'+ seas. And when the crap hit the fan the Coast Guard had to risk their lives to save 2 people who did some thing incredibly stupid.

The second was the NC one and the boat left Beaufort and the USA does have a pretty good weather forecasting service. They were rescured off NC so they either did not check the weather or decided to sail regardless of the weather. The front was huge and as I said above we have friends in the Bahamas that knew it was coming and tucked in for protection. If they were at sea and not really that far out, they should have seen the front coming and headed in for protection. It is not that they were in the middle of the Atlantic.

This is simple arrogance or stupidity or both.
Can we keep the Sedona rescue out of this thread, it's confusing.

How far out of Beaufort was this vessel when rescued or is it NC they were out of? I'm not familiar with your coast at all.
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Yeah, I'm throughly confused on which boat and which crew.

Rhode Island, Auzzie, trimaran, Sedona? Right?
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I believe Frank Rawley is a contributor to CF and a regular of these forums. In fact, I had responded to his Crew Wanted ad a month or so ago to go on this very trip. Quite shocking to see this has happened since he seemed to know Condors and this vessel very well and his qualifications (from my memory) were quite notable. Also, if I remember correctly, the "14-year old boy" was his son that wanted to go on the passage - hence why I wasn't able to join them.

Very thankful to hear they are safe and once again hats off to the USCG. Makes you wonder if things could have gone differently if you were there, ya know? Torn sails.....
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Yeah, I'm throughly confused on which boat and which crew.

Rhode Island, Auzzie, trimaran, Sedona? Right?
The Trimaran is this thread. Not sure where from though.

Sedona is the mono hull with the laracans.
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Just to add to the confusion, both boats had father and son teams.
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The Condor tri "was" based out of North Carolina and they were picked up 60 miles from Bald Head Island, NC. Might have been a short trip.
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The Condor tri "was" based out of North Carolina and they were picked up 60 miles from Bald Head Island, NC. Might have been a short trip.
Well, until more is known we don't know if they had been at sea for a week at that time?

Does anyone know at all about the circumstances of this particular case?
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