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Old 14-12-2014, 20:02   #16
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Re: A new breed of sailor?

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All innovations meet resistance until the objections are diminished in time by the simple fact that the new project works.

I LIKE the concept. I dont want v8s strapped on the boat, I want a sailboat. At the outset I did say traditional sailors WOULD NOT LIKE IT. Its a completely different feel and approach to sailing.

The same resistance is between Multi and Mono boats. BOTH work and work well. But both camps deny the right to choice based on preference. Weird that.

In time we will be seeing this working. Im not the only one liking the concept. I could name at least 3 major manufacturers prototyping aspects of this type of setup. Broadblue have put their money into working on it. DazCats designed it. The vessel is fast and efficient and selling.

You dont have to like it. Your reasons may be logical given that you only know how to sail in the prescribed manner. When the manner changes, so do attitudes. Maybe it needs a nonsuch type rig to work really well.

Its a forward looking concept. Im with it.


I agree with most of what you wrote above.
Innovative designs meet more resistance at first, until their superiority or market niche is educated or built.

I like looking up at sails.
I like being dry and warm versus cold and wet.
I see a place for this type of boat just as I do for pilot house sailboats and Motorsailors and power cats and fly bridges on cats too. There are many boat designs, each with their fans and intended markets...and detractors too.
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Old 14-12-2014, 21:19   #17
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Re: A new breed of sailor?

I believe you have set a new record for a single post with the most capital I's. Congratulations.


What the purpose of it was lost on me though.
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Old 14-12-2014, 23:30   #18
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Re: A new breed of sailor?

I'm hearing the sound of click-beetles, just before the Klezmer band starts.
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Old 14-12-2014, 23:50   #19
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Re: A new breed of sailor?

I've heard about these "new breeds". I think that is where Chihuaua's came from... a "new breed" that started with a real dog somewhere in teh past. Guess it works with sailors, too.

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Re: A new breed of sailor?

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Aren't they really a re-incarnated Prout? In which case, they've been around a lot longer than that.
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Old 15-12-2014, 00:23   #21
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Re: A new breed of sailor?


I love this little catamaran, simple with lots of deck and airy interior space, she hops up and down the east coast of australia without any fuss, using the headsail when the winds are favorable and the motors when they are not. I believe she started as a powercat and the mast was added for the QLD SE trades. kind of cute in a fishing boat sort of way as well!
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Aren't they really a re-incarnated Prout? In which case, they've been around a lot longer than that.
The Broadblue established in 2001 was indeed a Prout reincarnation. Broadblue have gone belly-up at least once since 2001 (2008) and I don't think there are any of the Prout owners involved today although there will certainly be ex-Prout staff.


Not unusual though for small builders to have trouble when the rest of the world has trouble and I certainly wish them well with this venture. I like to see innovation such as this.
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I've heard about these "new breeds". I think that is where Chihuaua's came from... a "new breed" that started with a real dog somewhere in teh past. Guess it works with sailors, too.

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Re: A new breed of sailor?

LOLOLOL

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Re: A new breed of sailor?

after testing many monos and cats and performance monos and performance cats this is my take:

choose boat you like and performance will be good if

you keep boat light
keep bottom clean
learn how to sail well
understand weather and breezes and tides
keep sail in good condition
learn specifics of your boat, what she likes and what not

surprising how much performance can one well versed person extract from totally average equipped boat.
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Re: A new breed of sailor?

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I've heard about these "new breeds". I think that is where Chihuaua's came from... a "new breed" that started with a real dog somewhere in teh past. Guess it works with sailors, too.

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Oh Lord now youve gone and upset Chihuaua owners worldwide. (I copied your spelling so if its wrong.....)

To repeat myself. Traditional sailors will not like the concept.

I guess they dont.
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Re: A new breed of sailor?

I wonder how it would go under adverse conditions, like confused seas, breaking beam seas, where you might have to release the mainsheet quickly?
I'm sure it has a 100% reliable inclinometer to sense when you're at the point of no return..... t'would be interesting to ask for a test sail and test it
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I wonder how it would go under adverse conditions, like confused seas, breaking beam seas, where you might have to release the mainsheet quickly?
I'm sure it has a 100% reliable inclinometer to sense when you're at the point of no return..... t'would be interesting to ask for a test sail and test it
It does. It can drop or release hold on the sails at preset levels faster than you could do it yourself. Or so the word on the street is.
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Re: A new breed of sailor?

Indeed old breed of sailors will look at different things when buying a new boat.
Although can agree that number of buttons around can simplify sailing for some time.
One who really wants a few, just orders those to be placed on. I know the person who put a leg-operfated button close to each of the two outer helm stations to operate mainsail in-boom furling on his 53-feeter purpose designed and being built these days.
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