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Old 06-10-2015, 14:39   #16
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I had two boats for about an hour once. That was too long, I started to panic. Then the phone rang with an offer on the old one. Whew!
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Old 06-10-2015, 15:16   #17
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Ah, I feel ur pain, because, first I bought a Laser (after soooo many years of not havin' a sailboat), and then I bought a house, which included sa jonboat, and then I really got the yearning for what I had when I was a boy - a boat large enoug to sail into the ocean. Though I skipped over the part about sailing dinghys beyond the horizon to terrify my poor loving mother. Well anyhow, no one can or should be criticized for having too many boats, in my opinion. I now have an ocean-going 36 foot sailboat, in addition to the above, but will soon acquire a beautiful wooden dighy which can be sailed or rowed.

Not sure I helped. but you are in good company.
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Old 06-10-2015, 15:44   #18
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Wasn't a Nimble the type of tri that Piver lost his life in?

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I believe so. My bet would be he got hit by a ship? I think she was borrowed from a friend?

I wish I had never sold mine. No hardware to put up and down/ centerboard. Just a fin on each ama and it pointed well and didn't skate.
JMHO for what it may be worth.
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Apparently I'm becoming a yacht addict. I just can't get enough of them.

According to Aristotle Onassis, "Boats are like rabbits. You can have one or many, but never only two."

Well I've had two for the past two years and recently I started lusting after multihulls. I'm a dinosaur and tilting at 30 degrees is just stressful and tiring, so naturally it occurred to me that a cat or tri would be better than a onemaran.

About 6 months ago I almost bought a dilapidated Hartley Sparkle 28'er on eBay but fortunately for me the computer died 3 hours before the end of that auction. It sold for $1525.

Why was that fortunate? Hey, I can barely afford the two ferros I already have.

So anyhow, another Sparkle came up and I started bidding. It finishes in about 5 days and I'm still leading the bid.

My problem is this: I just found a Piver Nimble in great condition for $2000 and it has been sitting there for sale for ages. The owner was even willing to negotiate this downwards to get rid of it. Reason he can't sell is that he's in a really remote location in a lake and I figure nobody wants to try to get it home from there.

So, what do I do here? I could end up owning FOUR yachts by next week.

Help!! Is there a yacht buyers' anonymous meeting anywhere around here?

Atoll?? I know you have several, how do you manage it?
My wife and I made a pact before buying our first boat together.

1) Liveaboard was mandatory
2) Buy just one boat so we can sail weekly
3) Buy a good boat. Maintenance is my hobby. I have a day job.

Our dinghy, a double kayak and a windsurfer are toys not obsessions.

So far so good. Good luck with those ferro boats...


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Old 06-10-2015, 20:20   #20
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Piver Nimble= horrible to windward. Solid baot otherwise.
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Old 06-10-2015, 21:35   #21
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The problem with multihulls...once you enter that realm of sailing you can never go back to the other. Goodbye Ferro cement...and Heavens only know what else will happen to you while under the influence. It can be so severe infliction that it is well known in the monohull circles ..."friends don't let friends ride multihulls" type of thing.
Friendships have been lost due to defections. Some serious problems like hope, excitement, bravado, and other maladies arise once you feel the speed, passing mononhulls like they are sitting ducks, cooking on a non-gimb stove while underway, laying on the nets while ghosting along at 5 knots and everyone else steaming away under diesel power and you are eating lunch and your beer sits on the ama unattended, and you are 2 meters off the beach with the boards up...jump off the front ama into knee deep water. You begin to understand why mono sailors hate you. Be careful and be fully aware that you are heading to a place where there is no coming back...be very careful. This is your last warning....
Yeah, sounds dreadful. My friends with dutch built steelies are already sneering at me and telling me that a Piver "sails like a block of flats."

Suppose they have to justify the investment somehow.
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Wasn't a Nimble the type of tri that Piver lost his life in?
Yeah, but he didn't build that one, it was borrowed.
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If the Nimble is the 25' Piver buy it. The sweetest thing you have ever sailed. Just a fun boat. Points high and a neutral rudder. Set the sails go forward sit on the cabin top and have a beer. Only an overnighter. Although the one I had singled the Atlantic.
It's a 30'er but I think you know which one I mean. Wanna see a photo?

Oh god, I can't help myself can I.
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Probably old news, however: you can cancel your bid on ebay before it closes. Easy process.
The only valid reason allowed - per the rules - is an incorrect bid, but yes I was aware of that. The Sparkle is such a lovely tri that I really want it though. Did I mention it was built in 2004 and has a new furler and main, depth sounder, radio and tiller pilot? The guy tried to get $20,000 for months, then finally relented and threw it on eBay.

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Unfortunately it's 1650km away so I can't just go take a look right now. But if the Hartley auction goes past my limit I'll be driving off in a hurry to see it.
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Now reading Jim Brown's "The Case for the Cruising Trimaran."
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My entire family owns boats collectively. Originally I think it was to help control costs, now I think it is to justify owning so many. With the addition of my A-class Catamaran I think we are up to 11 boats now.... It's a serious addiction.
*Bows head* I am not worthy.

Can I be your sycophant?
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Guess I better stick to sailing, cause I dont get any of this.
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I prefer the anonymity to help reduce the level of shame...
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Ain't that the truth... It's like trying to crack a safe wearing a blindfold, earmuffs, and mittens...
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Mate, just so you really understand how terrible this affliction/lust for multihulls can become...please examine the picture below to see what happens to those who went to the dark side of multihulls. This picture accurately reflects how focused, intense, and insane the look will be on your face once you cross over to the ....."may the force be with you"
I dont get religious about the number of hulls, currently own both a mono and a cat and have done a lot of tri sailing...even run a lot of power boats. As long as Im on the water...who cares about the number of hulls.

The mono I have, a Hobie 33, can elicit that level of focus. Fast (17+ knots), extremely good windward performance (28 apparent!), will sail in just a breath of wind, exceptionally maneuverable under sail.
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