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Old 18-11-2012, 16:53   #31
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Your amazing, the owner who is selling is Jacky Setton, French, and yes he set it up to be sailed short handed. You have any stock tips for me?
Stock tips? Sure, buy this instead and put the savings in an index fund for your cruising kitty.

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Old 18-11-2012, 16:56   #32
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At racing speeds yeah probably only a few could single hand it, but if you could be content with maybe only 300 mile days, you could probably just leave the mainsail in it's bag.

BTW is Ellen Macarthur French?
No, but she had crew when she captained this boat.
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Old 18-11-2012, 16:59   #33
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Stock tips? Sure, buy this instead and put the savings in an index fund for your cruising kitty.

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Wow, only 4.5 l/hr at 7kt under power, what an efficient hull. Didn't catch the weight but with an aluminum hull, not a flyweight.
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Old 20-11-2012, 13:32   #34
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Yea, maybe if your name is Francis Joyon! I imagine you could count on one hand the number of sailor who could single hand it and they would all be French.
I've crewed on an Open 60 set up for single handing. It's actually not that hard to set up. The only issue is the amount of effort to raise the main. Either you're patient and fit or you install an electric winch.

I consider myself an averageish sailor, and I'm pretty sure I could single hand that boat. I wouldn't want to dock it, but at sea you just need to have things set up well (all led back, clutches, adequately sized winches, etc.) and plan way ahead.
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Old 20-11-2012, 16:27   #35
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I've crewed on an Open 60 set up for single handing. It's actually not that hard to set up. The only issue is the amount of effort to raise the main. Either you're patient and fit or you install an electric winch.

I consider myself an averageish sailor, and I'm pretty sure I could single hand that boat. I wouldn't want to dock it, but at sea you just need to have things set up well (all led back, clutches, adequately sized winches, etc.) and plan way ahead.
I'm sorry but that's absurd or you are not an average sailor. Do you know anything about that boat, it's history? Do you realize it's 104' almost twice as big as an Open 60? Do you know how incredible it was considered by the pros that do sail these boats when Joyon smashed the single-handed RTW record in a similar size cat? One also designed for a professional crew.

There is just no way an "average sailor" or even most pros can handle a 100' cat single-handed. IMHO
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I'm sorry but that's absurd or you are not an average sailor. Do you know anything about that boat, it's history? Do you realize it's 104' almost twice as big as an Open 60? Do you know how incredible it was considered by the pros that do sail these boats when Joyon smashed the single-handed RTW record in a similar size cat? One also designed for a professional crew.

There is just no way an "average sailor" or even most pros can handle a 100' cat single-handed. IMHO
I guess I just don't see how anything changes except the forces. That means you need better mechanical advantage and/or electrics. Certainly you also need to plan ahead. A gybe would probably take 5-10 minutes.

I didn't say anything about records our the southern ocean. I wouldn't want to dock it or anchor in tight spaces, either.
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I think the key was" have things set up well (all led back, clutches, adequately sized winches, etc.) "

If its set up for it, I dont see a problem with it.
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Totally Bitchen!!!
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Totally Bitchen!!!
We just keep agreeing here on CF, don't we?
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We just keep agreeing here on CF, don't we?
Always nice to cross paths with sea people with similar concepts on various topics. Not sayin' we are right... just sayin'....
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Totally Bitchen!!!
And I also changed my signature to be more informative like yours.
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Re: A Gunboat is slow compared to this cruiser

OK Jeffry, I'll give a short list of boats that I like, see if they mesh with your likes...


Most any Chris White cat or tri

SMG 50 A-frame mast

Most Catanas

Sundeer series mono

"Virgin Fire" tri

And of course my cruising trainer boat, 1969 Cal 40, but I'm older and softer now, hence the above choices.
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