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Old 28-05-2010, 22:01   #16
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Wow, what am I missing? she looks kinda cool. Do you think it can sink?
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Old 29-05-2010, 06:26   #17
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Wow, what am I missing? she looks kinda cool. Do you think it can sink?
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Yes, right after it pitchpoles into an unrightable position!

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Old 29-05-2010, 09:12   #18
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TOOOOOOOO Many Assumptions going on here.
1. That she carries no ballast in those long keels. Why Not?
2. That she's meant to Sail, rather than motor.
3. That it doesn't work.

A. From the rear views it would seem to be nearly as wide as my Prout that is a little conservative but known to be safe from pitch poling.
B. She has no problems with Slamming.
C. She's easier to board from a pontoon/dinghy/swimming thanks to flat sides and a broad rear end.
D. The interior should be spacious and comfortable as only cats can be.
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Old 29-05-2010, 13:16   #19
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TOOOOOOOO Many Assumptions going on here.
1. That she carries no ballast in those long keels. Why Not?
She could be ballasted, however like a cat she doesn't displace much water. It also looks like she is riding quite high in the pictures. This would indicate that if she is ballasted, that they are kiddie weights.

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2. That she's meant to Sail, rather than motor.
2 x 40hp Yanmar diesels with 540 litres in 2 alloy tanks

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Main tri radial cruising laminate with 2 single line reefs. 150% tri radial laminate Genoa on furler, 100% jib with tri radial laminate, tri radial laminate Staysail on furler & code zero, kevlar tri radial on furler. MPS in chute.

She is meant to sail.

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My general problem with that boat is that I don't think it captures the "best of both worlds". It's L/W radio is roughly 1/3 where as on any cat it would be 1/2+...as the massive keels would suggest and as most people on this forum have guessed. That means this hull doesn't inherently have much of a righting moment (probably on a broad reach). Right there my two favorite things about a cat are gone. Inherent righting moment in the hull by design, and as a result...low draft.

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A. From the rear views it would seem to be nearly as wide as my Prout that is a little conservative but known to be safe from pitch poling.
Since she is narrow, pitch poling shouldn't be any worse.

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B. She has no problems with Slamming.
She could in the right seas just like any boat with a big surface riding above the water.

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C. She's easier to board from a pontoon/dinghy/swimming thanks to flat sides and a broad rear end.
Looks just as easy as any well designed cat to me.

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D. The interior should be spacious and comfortable as only cats can be.
I disagree. She does look nice, but remember she is 50 ft long and 16.7 feet wide. If she were a cat, her beam would be closer to 27 ft (probably slightly more). Wishbone is missing a LOT of room a cat would have of the same length.


***She is MUCH cheaper than most 50' cats so there is always that consideration. Personally I'd have to sail to boat and see how it faired at different points of sail, but my gut feeling is that those long keels aren't just for show and that she has the potential to be a real hazard.***


I will say that the motion at anchor is probably better than that of a mono, which is a big deal.
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I give in. She is perhaps, more of a Camel. A cross between so many animals to get the ideal. Certainly the Camel is very adept in it's own environment but it is a little hard to see how the MonoCat is any better than it's parents. Perhaps it will be another mule!
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TOOOOOOOO Many Assumptions going on here.
1. That she carries no ballast in those long keels. Why Not?
From her spec's

"Keel / Ballast:
Electric lift fin with bulb. Forward canard board & twin rudders."

Had this boat as a neighbour in Mooloolaba for a while and it certainly was a well built good looking boat, never had a chance to talk to owner about sailing characteristics
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