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Old 23-01-2013, 03:18   #16
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Re: 48ft 2008 FP Salina vs 50ft 2007 Admiral

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My mistake. I was surprised to see this drawing. The FP Lavezzi 40, Lipari 41, and the Orana 44 all have the prop behind the rudder. This is the new FP guidelines as they move the engines as far back in the boat as possible to increase interior room.

The Charter market rules over boat design...
100% agree with you - unfortunately the $/s speak and they say form over function these days.
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Old 23-01-2013, 04:21   #17
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Ok I'll have to watch for that but we're not buying new (or even close to it) so hopefully should be ok. Thanks for the heads up.
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Old 23-01-2013, 06:15   #18
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Re: 48ft 2008 FP Salina vs 50ft 2007 Admiral

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My mistake. I was surprised to see this drawing. The FP Lavezzi 40, Lipari 41, and the Orana 44 all have the prop behind the rudder. This is the new FP guidelines as they move the engines as far back in the boat as possible to increase interior room.

The Charter market rules over boat design...
Yes, the smaller boats have the prop behind the rudder. The first boat I experienced with such design was the Lagoon 380. The only downside is maneuvering at less than 1 knot on one engine. With both engines running, there is no problem. I purposely tested the 380 using one engine and found full control/steerage >1 knot of speed.

I think that Leopard has a good idea, they flip the engine/saildrive around putting the drive in front of the engine allowing for the prop to be in front of the rudder.
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Old 26-01-2013, 13:30   #19
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I am biased as I own a Salina....

If sailing is important to you, then the Salina is the best sailing 'Cruising' production cat I have been able to compare.
The galley is superb with the splashback that keeps all your stuff in position and out of sight.
The props are in front of the rudders and I can make her even move sideways away from a dock! Maneuverability at low speed is excellent.
The dinghy under the very popular sundeck is kept in the shade and doesn't fill with rain.
The roof and the built in gutters make protection from the rain the envy of other cat owners. You can easily walk to the end of the boom to zip the boombag.

The engine rooms are cavernous, lots of room for genset, watermakers, and plenty more.
The electrical system is of good quality, all wires are marine grade and well secured.

Of course there might be things you will want to add, but there are things that you will never be able to improve on, such as the low bridgedeck of the Admiral.
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Old 26-01-2013, 20:58   #20
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Re: 48ft 2008 FP Salina vs 50ft 2007 Admiral

Hi Spiv,

Thanks for your comments. It sounds great.

Do you have any issues getting a marina berth or getting hauled out? It was suggested that a bigger cat has these issues. Also, If you dont mind me answering, what would you consider your running costs to be? People are suggesting 1-2% of purchase price. Do you find this accurate for operating the Salina?

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Old 27-01-2013, 16:52   #21
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The only issue with marinas is the width and I think there us very little between the two. The Salina is 7.7m and can get in the middle sized lifts.

As far as costs, it will vary with the age of the boat and the amount of repairs/ modifications you can do yourself.
I'd say that 2% is a bit low... Batter allow more
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Admiral under contract. Is that you, Wing?
2007 Admiral Owner's Version Sail Boat For Sale - www.yachtworld.com
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Hi Sand Crab,

No this isn't us. We tried but the agent wouldn't respond to us. Never mind..weve moved on
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