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24-10-2013, 18:05
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#166
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Cruising the southern coast of Portugal and Spain
Boat: Leopard 40
Posts: 761
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Re: 40ft Catamaran Owners Please
I love a down galley. The Antares has the perfect set up. Once which the new Gemini 35 has pretty much copied. The problem is finding one in a catamaran.
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25-10-2013, 06:43
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#167
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2013
Boat: Coming Soon ...
Posts: 29
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Re: 40ft Catamaran Owners Please
TheNomadTrip, good luck on your search
I found a wealth of info on this forum, and am glad I spent the time asking questions, some posts may require you to add a little salt, but enlarge you are in great hands on this forum.
Dave
A photo from the maiden voyage - Sunrise, Saldanha Bay to Cape Town.
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01-11-2013, 11:12
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#168
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Bay Area California/BVI
Boat: Roberts and Caine Leopard 40
Posts: 22
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Re: 40ft Catamaran Owners Please
I purchased a 2006 Leopard 40 this year. Early hulls had some problems with bulkhead movement. This was fixed somewhere around hull 40. I looked at both the Lagoon and Leopard. On paper, I liked the Lagoon better, but after spending time on both boats, the Leopard was the easy winner for me. This is a personal preference issue in regards to ergonomics mostly. My surveyor did mention that they are having some issue with the Lagoons with the glued bulkheads coming un-glued. The Leopards are all glassed (at least according to my surveyor).
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01-11-2013, 11:27
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#169
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 5
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Re: 40ft Catamaran Owners Please
Sailing solo on a 40' cat. . . That's nuts! You need to stop thinking of your boat as a "home" on the water. Instead, think of it as your suitcase with a comfortable bed, a head, and a galley. FYI - marinas charge double for those double wides, and in the slightest bit of weather, they are almost impossible to handle alone (safely) at the docks.
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01-11-2013, 11:33
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#170
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Presently on US East Coast
Boat: Manta 40 "Reach"
Posts: 10,108
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Re: 40ft Catamaran Owners Please
OK, I will feed this one post troll.
You obviously have not spent much time in catamarans. Maneuvering at a dock, weather or not, is about the easiest of all boats. Sailing solo on a 40' catamaran set up with minimal consideration is far easier than on any monohull over 30' or so. Not to mention safer for a singlehander. I have yet to find a marina that charges double. The same or 50% at most if we take up an adjacent slip.
Besides, if you stay out of marinas and explore isolated places with beautiful anchorages, your boat is your home and not a suitcase. Some of us don't just motor from marina to marina.
Mark
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01-11-2013, 11:46
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#171
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: New Zealand
Posts: 98
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Originally Posted by Factor
And I can't think why someone would want to move from the most stable part of the boat to a location with more motion, less bench space, less stowage space, less room for refrigeration.
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We have a Lagoon 380 and love the galley up. The airflow, space, and connection to the others aboard work well. It's easy to access the freezer we put outside under the seats, as well as the BBQ. Highly recommend galley up.
Ange
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01-11-2013, 12:05
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#172
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: On the boat...
Boat: Lagoon 380
Posts: 183
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Re: 40ft Catamaran Owners Please
Quote:
Originally Posted by colemj
OK, I will feed this one post troll.
You obviously have not spent much time in catamarans. Maneuvering at a dock, weather or not, is about the easiest of all boats. Sailing solo on a 40' catamaran set up with minimal consideration is far easier than on any monohull over 30' or so. Not to mention safer for a singlehander. I have yet to find a marina that charges double. The same or 50% at most if we take up an adjacent slip.
Besides, if you stay out of marinas and explore isolated places with beautiful anchorages, your boat is your home and not a suitcase. Some of us don't just motor from marina to marina.
Mark
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I dig this post. But I do think you fed the troll.
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01-11-2013, 12:07
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#173
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: On the boat...
Boat: Lagoon 380
Posts: 183
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Re: 40ft Catamaran Owners Please
Quote:
Originally Posted by AngeW
We have a Lagoon 380 and love the galley up. The airflow, space, and connection to the others aboard work well. It's easy to access the freezer we put outside under the seats, as well as the BBQ. Highly recommend galley up.
Ange
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Thanks. This is about as hotly debated as "what is the best dinghy?"
I'm leaning toward a galley up myself - for the reasons you mentioned...
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01-11-2013, 12:29
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#174
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 9,398
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Re: 40ft Catamaran Owners Please
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Originally Posted by TheNomadTrip
I follow that line of reasoning, and thanks for outlining it.
My reasoning for the galley up:
- I think I'll be single-handing quite a bit, I want access to food/drink without losing sight of where I'm going
- If there are people onboard, I'd imagine you'd feel disconnected making dinner below
Any input on the rest of it? I hesitate to start another "What ~40' catamaran should I buy?" thread...
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Galley up and down both have their pro's and con's.
Down is more stable at sea, the shape allows you to "lock" yourself in. It's cooler - heat rises - our saloon gets much warmer when there's cooking going on. The dishes and mess are generally out of sight.
Galley up is quicker to access from the cockpit, you have a better view while cooking, the cook Is more connected to what's going on in the cockpit. Seeing the mess might guilt your guests into washing up...
IMO galley up works better in bigger boats. In a 40 foot cat you'd need to sacrifice a significant proportion of your saloon space to accommodate a good sized galley.
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01-11-2013, 14:10
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#175
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Marine Service Provider
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Blue Mountains, Australia
Boat: now skippering Syd Harbour charters
Posts: 1,557
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Re: 40ft Catamaran Owners Please
Quote:
Originally Posted by colemj
OK, I will feed this one post troll.
You obviously have not spent much time in catamarans. Maneuvering at a dock, weather or not, is about the easiest of all boats. Sailing solo on a 40' catamaran set up with minimal consideration is far easier than on any monohull over 30' or so. Not to mention safer for a singlehander. I have yet to find a marina that charges double. The same or 50% at most if we take up an adjacent slip.
Besides, if you stay out of marinas and explore isolated places with beautiful anchorages, your boat is your home and not a suitcase. Some of us don't just motor from marina to marina.
Mark
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Spot on Mark!
...and the troll is munching...
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01-11-2013, 14:37
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#176
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2007
Boat: TRT 1200
Posts: 7,265
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AngeW
We have a Lagoon 380 and love the galley up. The airflow, space, and connection to the others aboard work well. It's easy to access the freezer we put outside under the seats, as well as the BBQ. Highly recommend galley up. Ange
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Out of all the cats out there today I think the Lagoon 38 would be the one, in my opinion, that would have benefited from a galley down. Nice boats but absolutely no counter space in the galley. No comparison to the older Lagoon 37 with the galley down.
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01-11-2013, 15:02
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#177
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: On the boat...
Boat: Lagoon 380
Posts: 183
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Re: 40ft Catamaran Owners Please
Quick question for everyone here - on a Lagoon/FP/Privilege/Dean 38', can you put a 12' dinghy and 15HP two stroke on those davits?
What about in the 40' range?
And 42'?
I guess, at what length does it generally become feasible to go up to a 12' dinghy w/a 15HP motor. I realize this is determined by the carrying capacity of the davits as well. So if anyone has a 38-42 cat, can you chime in?
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01-11-2013, 15:09
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#178
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Presently on US East Coast
Boat: Manta 40 "Reach"
Posts: 10,108
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Re: 40ft Catamaran Owners Please
Mostly dependent on the davit strength and space between the hulls (although this can be worked around some). We can fit a 12' dinghy between the hulls of our Manta 40, and the davits are good for at least 800lbs (the Manta 42 is the same).
Mark
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01-11-2013, 16:25
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#179
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Caribbean winters, North Dakota/Minnesota summers
Boat: Leopard 39 Owners Version
Posts: 372
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheNomadTrip
Quick question for everyone here - on a Lagoon/FP/Privilege/Dean 38', can you put a 12' dinghy and 15HP two stroke on those davits?
What about in the 40' range?
And 42'?
I guess, at what length does it generally become feasible to go up to a 12' dinghy w/a 15HP motor. I realize this is determined by the carrying capacity of the davits as well. So if anyone has a 38-42 cat, can you chime in?
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Direct from a leopard 39 owners manual...as a guide, dinghy, - 3.3 meters (10'9"), 60kg, fuel and tank 50kg, motor max 20hp, motor weight 50kg, total weight 160kg.
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01-11-2013, 16:29
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#180
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 5
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Re: 40ft Catamaran Owners Please
I've lived and cruised full-time on my boat(s) for almost 20 years now - averaging 10,000 miles a year. After spending two years on my 44' catamaran, I bought a 32' monohull to keep voyaging in, and when I can't sail safely anymore, will retire to my cat. Fact is. . . while great when the weather and conditions are, its an awful lot of boat for a solo sailor.
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