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Old 02-03-2016, 21:22   #196
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Re: Yacht type choice - Cultural differences?

I'm not quoting all that text

And can't really respond as it's getting us too close to politics and religion. But for those interested in the European barometer, there is always PublicOpinion - European Commission. They only ask 1,000 people per county, but still, it should give some insights.
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Hi, whilst at it, please include Africa (not only Dows!)
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Very nice the traditional British boats or classics, but in what regards modern cruisers, well, they are efficient but in what concerns beauty....well




Guess it just boils down to what one considers 'Beauty'..
The Masai consider neck stretching their women a thing of beauty.. but, remove those 10 to 20 neck rings and their necks break.
As to the European attitudes to Asians and their religions.. we've been dealing with them culturally and economically for millennia.. whereas for the American consciousness its a new experience..
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I have found part of the reason, at least for differences between the US & UK

It seem things weigh more in the UK than the US because England is closer to Jupiter. Obviously with such different conditions, you need a different style of yacht.

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I have found part of the reason, at least for differences between the US & UK

It seem things weigh more in the UK than the US because England is closer to Jupiter. Obviously with such different conditions, you need a different style of yacht.

Ahh.. the joys of the 'Dumbed Down' English Education.. there's teenaged Brit girls who think a Band-Aid over their bellybutton is effective birth control..
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Ahh.. the joys of the 'Dumbed Down' English Education.. there's teenaged Brit girls who think a Band-Aid over their bellybutton is effective birth control..
The American girl in the video clearly gives your Brit girls a run for their money.
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You tell the helmsman to ease off a bit, if he wants a drink :-)
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I have found part of the reason, at least for differences between the US & UK

It seem things weigh more in the UK than the US because England is closer to Jupiter. Obviously with such different conditions, you need a different style of yacht.


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Re: Yacht type choice - Cultural differences?

To be perfectly honest.. in my point of view recent (last 40yrs) European Yacht Design was not driven by European demands at the start.. more that the mass producers like Beneteau etc were motivated by the American market and the 'Disposable Culture' that exists over there..
Europeans were quite happy with the traditional layouts of DuFour, Jeneau and the likes off Westerly etc however American boats of the same era were more spacious and geared toward 'the family'.. so they changed tack to take advantage of this mass market where the ownership was more important than the purpose.. so Bene opened a plant in the US.
The CE/RCD was introduced solely to stifle any influx of used American boats into the EU.. cheaper, roomier there, and in demand here.. up until Aug 2005 there was an annual stream of 2nd hand Hunters, C&C's, Catalina's etc bought by Brits and others and sailed back across..
When I came over that year with my Hunter there were 12 others that I know off in Horta who'd done the same.. and were headed to the Med or W Europe..
If the local 2nd hand market slows.. so does the new boat market.. we cannot afford to just let 1, 2 or 3 boats sit around for years waiting to sell.

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European identity is a politicians dream.
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there's teenaged Brit girls who think a Band-Aid over their bellybutton is effective birth control.. [/SIZE][/FONT]
Wouldn't that depend on penis size?
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European identity is a politicians dream.
They might have a dream of their own but it has nothing to do with individuals. Personally I consider myself as an european by identity. Speaking 6 languages and understanding some more has some influence to that..
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Ahh.. the joys of the 'Dumbed Down' English Education.. there's teenaged Brit girls who think a Band-Aid over their bellybutton is effective birth control..
And I wonder where they learned that from, Boaty?
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European identity is a politicians dream.
Yes, if we reduce 'Europe' to the 'EU'. The EU and an EU identity are politicians dreams. No wonder, one look at what an EU MP is paid explains the dream well enough.

Otherwise, the idea of European identity predates the awkward, shaky and corrupt body of the EU.

In the latter meaning, 'European' is a well formed, well defined and pretty clear to any educated European person concept that we know where it starts, where it ends and what it contains.

The point is, none of the definitions shows in boat design, other than that most unfortunate CE Mark, Ocean Category A, brass seacocks and disposable rudders and (more recently) keels.

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I'm not quoting all that text

Neither am I.

There's so much wildly inaccurate drivel in there, it isn't even worth the bother.

"Their argument is that the very principles of modern democracy and cosmopolitanism that the American Revolution embodied"

Can't even get the fundamentals right. Or the source.

It was about a balanced REPUBLIC, denying power (because nobody can be trusted with it), under the Rule of Law!

The Revolution that kicked it off full time (large areas of it originated in Pre Imperial Roman Europe - e.g. The Druid "No God, No King, No Man, is above the Law", with King Alfred the Great re codifying that Law as the Common Law, Magna Carta, etc), was the 1688 Glorious Revolution, the 1688 Bill of Rights which established the first balanced Republic in World history (what the Constitutional Monarchy is supposed to be), gave America its first Bill of Rights circa 1700 AD (in gratitude for assistance given with the Glorious Revolution), thanks to John Locke, perhaps the greatest genius of all time, who by inventing the Scientific Method -Empiricism - proved the lie and despotic tyranny of Divine Right, and thanks to Empiricism, gave us the means to acquire the modern World.

You can't even find John Locke in any Education syllabus!

The EU is nothing to do with Democracy, it is a Power Grab being carried out by people that are supporters of Divine Right, and they stand for everything that the Rule of Law opposes, which is why they despise the British and American systems so much, and will do all in their power to destroy any trace of them.

Why do you think the period that includes the Glorious Revolution of 1688, despite it being one of the most important periods for the whole World, if not THE most important in history (John Locke succeeded where 1,000's of years of philosophers had been ripping their hair out at their failure to solve the self destructive inevitability of all three possible forms of Government), isn't even taught in any School or University, and reference works now have a large and noticeable blank where the period has been censored out?

As for "most" European kids forming lifelong friendships due to childhood social contact, you are deluded. I was part of such things when they first started, and almost NOBODY keeps in touch for long.

This touchy feely sorry excuse for EU 'integration' is completely detached from reality, as are these people involved in so called Education that are all too keen to grab the EU propaganda grants, and the lot of them need cleaning out so they can take their nonsense with them.

PS. Where do you think America's Founding Fathers got it all from?
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