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Old 11-11-2014, 17:45   #61
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Re: Would You Cross the Atlantic in Either of These?

Putting a jib on a junk rig just looks wrong.
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Re: Would You Cross the Atlantic in Either of These?

If it had a bilge, it just might...

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Well supposing it had a 90 pound anchor and 300 feet of chain in the bilge, would that work?
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Jim, I am not in any way comparing the OP with the Hiscocks. I was more or less trying to show how asinine it is to say that anything under some made up size limit is unsafe. The OP is at the dreamer stage. I was once at that stage, and read everything that I could. I bought a 17 foot keel boat and learned a little about sailing. Gave that boat away and bought a 26 foot boat that I knew nothing about, other than it had all of the equipment that the Hiscocks and Roth recommended. It turned out to be a Contessa 26 which is a magnificent sailing boat. Small, and sometimes uncomfortable, but a great boat. The only recommendation I gave the OP was to get as much coastal cruising as possible, before leaving on a long passage. I had almost 2000 miles of coastal cruising before I lifted the hook for the Marquesas. If I had done all of the reading, but not the coastal cruising, I dont know if the trip would have been a success. I moved up to a 37 foot boat, and then a 44 footer, but many of my fondest memories are from the 26 footer in the tropics. Life was good. ______Grant.
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Re: Would You Cross the Atlantic in Either of These?

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GANNET ? GANNET is a Moore 24, one of the first ultra-light displacement boats from Santa Cruz, California, where she was launched in 1979. 156 Moore 24s were built in the late 1970s and 1980s. GANNET is hull number 40.? I?d harbored vague thoughts a

Yeah, that's right. The man is on his 6th circumnavigation and he's doing it on a 24 foot ULDB.
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Old 11-11-2014, 18:27   #65
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Why not a real boat like a Flicka20.
What makes the Flicka any more of a real boat than the C&C for example?
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No. I'd buy an airline ticket, then purchase a boat when I get over there.
Makes a lot of sense to me, of course the same logic applies even if he were asking about bigger boats too.
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Re: Would You Cross the Atlantic in Either of These?

IMHO it is as OP stated. All sorts of boats have already done this. With both excellent drivers and with ignorant skippers too.

I would pick up the strongest of the boats with the highest chance of coming back from a bad capsize.

I would do so because under certain size a boat has relatively high chance of ending up on her side, or upside down. When this happens a weak structure or one that has too much reverse stability becomes a liability.

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Re: Would You Cross the Atlantic in Either of These?

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What makes the Flicka any more of a real boat than the C&C for example?
Rigging, scantlings, scupper size, keel type, capsize ratio etc. etc. Flicka was purpose bluewater designed and is widely recognized as such. C&C 27 is a great coastal cruiser, but not in the same class.
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thank you for all your posts, ive read them all more then once.
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Re: Would You Cross the Atlantic in Either of These?

these "will i live thru this" threads are hy larry us.
the only thing that makes a boat safely make passages is the loose nut behind the wheel/tiller.
or captain ron.

learn to sail and practice, then go out in whatever you feel safest sailing.
sail everything.

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As I said sub-30ft is not, imho, up to an Atlantic crossing with any margin of safety. They are not "bluewater" if they survive they are lucky. Like people who row across or float bathtubs, rafts etc.

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What a load of balderdash!

Mini Transats? Plus they are a darn sight quicker than most sub 40' cruising boats.

If you prefer somthing a bit more traditional how about a Laurent Giles Vertue?

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1950 Laurent Giles Vertue Bermudan cutter Sail New and Used Boats for
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Re: Would You Cross the Atlantic in Either of These?

Fipofix, 16ft, crossed the Atlantic twice. Not my idea of fun...

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Re: Would You Cross the Atlantic in Either of These?

I don't think the question asked a few pages back has been answered. Has anyone- themselves- crossed the Atlantic ocean in a production under thirty foot boat. Jordan may have done the Pacific milk run.(I am trying to read between the lines here) And how was it?
BTW- there is a big difference between Webb and this man, who has never really ocean sailed before.
Me? I will cross the Atlantic when I am good and ready with a forty foot Valiant. Call me chicken- but I need enough space when I get over to Europe that my wife, and probably two grown kids can live comfortably.
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Fipofix, 16ft, crossed the Atlantic twice. Not my idea of fun...

Cool boat! Thanks for posting. Any more info on this?
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Look for a 10K Contessa 26, I have seen several in BC for that price, and several have circumnavigated.......
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