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Old 07-08-2009, 10:51   #1
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Form Follows Function.
A good dictum.
A grossly over-quoted and almost universaly mis-understood dictum, almost always incorrectly quoted, and virtually meaningless without in depth examination.

Chicago skyscraper architect Louis Sullivan coined (1896) the phrase: “Form follows function”

* It is the pervading law of all things organic and inorganic,
Of all things physical and metaphysical,
Of all things human and all things super-human,
Of all true manifestations of the head,
Of the heart, of the soul,
That the life is recognizable in its expression,
That form ever follows function. This is the law
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Old 07-08-2009, 12:33   #3
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A grossly over-quoted and almost universaly mis-understood dictum, almost always incorrectly quoted, and virtually meaningless without in depth examination.

Chicago skyscraper architect Louis Sullivan coined (1896) the phrase: “Form follows function”

* It is the pervading law of all things organic and inorganic,
Of all things physical and metaphysical,
Of all things human and all things super-human,
Of all true manifestations of the head,
Of the heart, of the soul,
That the life is recognizable in its expression,
That form ever follows function. This is the law
Growing up here with some of Louie's buildings still around, his meaning is the one that's applied.
Thanks for providing the full quote.
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After spending two summers on my knees re-seaming the decks on "Moon Dance”, the beautiful one inch thick, old growth Burmese teak is ready for another 30 years of service. I am just finishing up the eighth and final coat of "Bristol" finish on the boats cap rails, (Breathtaking). I have to admit that every once in a while I'll sneak a peak at a "J" boat and think, "What if I didn't have all this wood to deal with ?”. Then I snap back to reality. Wood is one of these issues that you either get it or you don't. I would never own a wood hulled sailboat, however I would never own a boat without a big beautiful, (Wooden) bowsprit, (A man thing). The other thought is that I actually enjoy the time spent working on my boat, (Almost as much as I like to sail).
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Old 07-08-2009, 12:39   #5
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I would never own a wood hulled sailboat, however I would never own a boat without a big beautiful, (Wooden) bowsprit, (A man thing). The other thought is that I actually enjoy the time spent working on my boat, (Almost as much as I like to sail).
I've found the the hull maintenance part doesn't add much to the brightwork maintenance part. (Ours is all wood -except the sticks)
Sure it's somewhat more work than a glass hull, but not as much more as I guess some folks are thinking.
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This thread has me chuckling... We have just recently finished the search for "The Boat" and one of our issues was wood and fiberglass.

Back ground; I was raised on on wooden chris-craft boats and spent far FAR too much of my youth doing bright work and such. Honestly... 100 degrees in the shade and I was sanding and varnishing. And when there wasn't work like that then we were on the dry and replacing what ever area needed replacing (ply construction has many inherent weaknesses verses it's only strength; Cheapness of construction.) with what ever would best do the job. And if you have read any of the thread about bilge pumps then you know that that childhood experience scarred me for life and left me with a huge need for the artificial security of pumps and switches and floats and batteries and such...

So my mantra was "No wood hulled boats. NONE NADA, Nunca!"

Himself was ALL about wood... "oh lookey at that pretty wooden hulled traditional rotting under the shiny painted monster POS BEAUTY with all the wood trim!" (italics are my silent mental editorial ; -)

So we compromised. We got a fiberglass hull, with NO wood trim, which I am just THRILLED about, absence of bilge pumps not withstanding, with an interior that has a generous amount of wood.

And this will slay you Sparohok; We are adding more wood. Where the insides are painted fiberglass I am installing paperbacked Mahogany veneer. And I have to confess that as abhorrent as I find exterior wood, I like well done interior wood. And my experience has been the interior wood wears far better than the interior fiberglass...

But I will also add something that I lived by in a past life as an Interior Designer... There IS a reason Baskin Robbins has 31 flavours... every single one of them is SOMEONES favorite!

So you get the flavour you like ; -)
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Old 07-08-2009, 19:16   #8
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This thread has me chuckling... We have just recently finished the search for "The Boat" and one of our issues was wood and fiberglass.

Back ground; I was raised on on wooden chris-craft boats and spent far FAR too much of my youth doing bright work and such. Honestly... 100 degrees in the shade and I was sanding and varnishing.

No one should be varnishing in 100 degree heat.

I did own a glass boat once- it didn't turn out well.
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No one should be varnishing in 100 degree heat.
I did own a glass boat once- it didn't turn out well.
I don't recommend varnishing fibreglass, at any temperature.
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I don't recommend varnishing fibreglass, at any temperature.
LOL. Good one. That wasn't the problem.
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I think the bottom line is that cruising sailboats of any type don't make any kind of practical sense. Unless you live like a wild man, it's almost always cheaper to fly somewhere and rent a nice hotel room, than to gear up and sail there. This is in conrtrast to say, driving cross country in an RV, which really is a cheaper way to go. Cruising sailboats are not RV's, at least not to (many of) their owners. They're instruments of art, history, and culture.
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I think the bottom line is that cruising sailboats of any type don't make any kind of practical sense. They're instruments of art, history, and culture.
and that about sums it up... wood or no wood, we all must be a bit off our rockers to have these holes in the water into which we invest so much in so many ways!
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and that about sums it up... wood or no wood, we all must be a bit off our rockers to have these holes in the water into which we invest so much in so many ways!
Houses are also holes. They have prices which are trebble the build value and once your installed, your a cash cow for numerous colectors not to mention the upkeep and maintenence
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Houses are also holes. They have prices which are trebble the build value and once your installed, your a cash cow for numerous colectors not to mention the upkeep and maintenence
I always found it better to get the houses built yourself instead of paying someones profit buying it from them.

The same with boats.
Then you pay a lot less money for the same value end product.

Yes, I know, it's a remarkable concept but some of us do it.
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I am now going to try out MY new favorite toy:

I think I like the flys best!
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