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Old 16-09-2016, 11:22   #1
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Will 60K buy a good bluewater boat ?

I am retiring in 5 years and the wife agreed to our plan of picking up a (near) 40 ft sailboat in a few years and start our (bluewater) sailing adventure. Question is, that I will have around 60K and have been searching at mostly Beneteau, but they seem out of my price range. What other brands/models might would be good for our quest? I am VERY mechanically inclined but do not want to do a total rebuild. Is 60K enough for that size boat?

Would it be best to find something up here in the great lakes where there is no saltwater? And then sail it south later?

"retirement cant come soon enough" the only problem with that is I am getting older, and don't want that! Even though i will only be 54 and the wife 48. I guess it's not so bad

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Old 16-09-2016, 11:27   #2
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Re: Will 60K buy a good bluewater boat ?

of course you can. 60k will snag a very capable sailboat. might have to drop your size a little bit (30-40 ft.)
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Old 16-09-2016, 12:24   #3
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Re: Will 60K buy a good bluewater boat ?

I have a similar budget. I have been looking at 35 footers. Most from the early to mid-80's. Plenty to choose from. There are some even cheaper boats from the 70's that are well maintained and very blue water capable.

Pretty good advice here:

Mahina Expeditions - Selecting A Boat for Offshore Cruising
Sailboat Reviews of Offshore Cruising Yachts : Bluewaterboats.org

Also, it would help if you define your cruising ground. Blue water is a vague term. Do you want to circumnavigate? Where are you located? Do you want to spend a few years in the Caribbean? What is your sailing experience? What is your wife's sailing experience? There are plenty of threads on here where the wife said she would go cruising but then found out it wasn't her cup of tea. There goes the dream....
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I have a similar budget. I have been looking at 35 footers. Most from the early to mid-80's. Plenty to choose from. There are some even cheaper boats from the 70's that are well maintained and very blue water capable.

Pretty good advice here:

Mahina Expeditions - Selecting A Boat for Offshore Cruising
Sailboat Reviews of Offshore Cruising Yachts : Bluewaterboats.org

Also, it would help if you define your cruising ground. Blue water is a vague term. Do you want to circumnavigate? Where are you located? Do you want to spend a few years in the Caribbean? What is your sailing experience? What is your wife's sailing experience? There are plenty of threads on here where the wife said she would go cruising but then found out it wasn't her cup of tea. There goes the dream....

Thanks, Wife and I have done some sailing on the Chesapeake and are getting some of our ASA certs next summer. So, Not a whole lot of experience from the both of us YET. Would start out in the Caribbean/Bahamas and get a little more experience. I dont think I will have a problem wife the wife not wanting to do it. If we could, we would do it now
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Old 16-09-2016, 14:50   #5
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Re: Will 60K buy a good bluewater boat ?

Yes.

Depends on your desired level of comfort though.

Bluewater, round-the-world capable boats can be had for 10-25K in the 27' range. 30-50K in 32' range, 40 - 70K in the 36' range.

The upper end of those prices include outfitting and prep.
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Re: Will 60K buy a good bluewater boat ?

I happen to to have a very good 35' cutter rigged boat currently in French Polynesia. Great place to start cruising from, or stay indefinitely for that matter ;-)

Due to some family and work issues, after half a circumnavigation, the boat, ready to go anywhere, is for sale. Could do with a haul-out for a quick bottom job that's about it. We live onboard until sold, will pick up a smaller boat for weekend sailing. PM me for more info....hard to find a better cruiser in this size range for two people, and we need to sell, but not in panic ;-)
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I happen to to have a very good 35' cutter rigged boat currently in French Polynesia. Great place to start cruising from, or stay indefinitely for that matter ;-)

Due to some family and work issues, after half a circumnavigation, the boat, ready to go anywhere, is for sale. Could do with a haul-out for a quick bottom job that's about it. We live onboard until sold, will pick up a smaller boat for weekend sailing. PM me for more info....hard to find a better cruiser in this size range for two people, and we need to sell, but not in panic ;-)
Thanks, If I were closer to retirement i would be accepting the offer to take a look at it
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I am retiring in 5 years and the wife agreed to our plan of picking up a (near) 40 ft sailboat in a few years and start our (bluewater) sailing adventure. Question is, that I will have around 60K and have been searching at mostly Beneteau, but they seem out of my price range. What other brands/models might would be good for our quest? I am VERY mechanically inclined but do not want to do a total rebuild. Is 60K enough for that size boat?

Would it be best to find something up here in the great lakes where there is no saltwater? And then sail it south later?

"retirement cant come soon enough" the only problem with that is I am getting older, and don't want that! Even though i will only be 54 and the wife 48. I guess it's not so bad

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Howdy Todd, and Welcome Aboard CF!

There is a vast amount of information here and many helpful members who have extensive experience.

For example, many earlier threads or discussions are focused on the topic of "Bluewater Boats." Here is a list of links to those threads in the CF archive. Take a look, and know there are many hours of reading there. Dive in and you will find some pearls of wisdom among the many opinions.

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Old 16-09-2016, 16:57   #9
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Re: Will 60K buy a good bluewater boat ?

It is impossible to say what 60k will buy in 5 years.

Both the US and the EC are at full swing printing money while the prices are stuck. This may backfire with high inflation anytime, or not. In theory, it could. Excessive money supply is one of possible reasons for high inflation.

Today 60k buys a decent blue water boat.

Or else buy a slightly smaller blue water boat at 40k and spend another 20k making her a good blue water boat.

BTW why make any plans 5 years ahead? Buying a boat is like buying a car. What car will you be driving in 5 years? Do you really plan such details?

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BTW why make any plans 5 years ahead? Buying a boat is like buying a car. What car will you be driving in 5 years? Do you really plan such details?

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My Friend has a fabulous Omega 36 in top condition ready for offshore cruising/sailing and for sail at a very good price. It's a gorgeous boat. Liferaft included.
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Re: Will 60K buy a good bluewater boat ?

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It is impossible to say what 60k will buy in 5 years.

Both the US and the EC are at full swing printing money while the prices are stuck. This may backfire with high inflation anytime, or not. In theory, it could. Excessive money supply is one of possible reasons for high inflation.

Today 60k buys a decent blue water boat.

Or else buy a slightly smaller blue water boat at 40k and spend another 20k making her a good blue water boat.

BTW why make any plans 5 years ahead? Buying a boat is like buying a car. What car will you be driving in 5 years? Do you really plan such details?

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Hey Barnakiel, interesting point. I've assumed used boats will actually keep getting cheaper BUT what your saying is definitely possible. This insane monetary experiment has never happened to this degree before, ever! I read daily regarding this topic and the figures are staggering! Inflation and lots of it is the only way ( maybe) do dig the world out of its incredible debt. Central banks and governments will just keep easing monetary policy until they get what they want. The problem is that inflation wipes out the middle class. Also once out of the bag can be very hard to control ie. Venezuela. Becareful what you wish for.
Will this sort of inflation happen? I dont know, and in all honesty I don't even think the likes of Yellen really know where this is going.
I had never really considered it in terms of what this means for used yachts in coming years.
I'm quite confident 5 years from now the world will be very different, so very hard to predict anything.

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Old 16-09-2016, 19:54   #13
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Re: Will 60K buy a good bluewater boat ?

I sort of had a CS 36 in mind, but this boat is along the same line.

Is it in the water? If not how long stored? Condition of teak deck? Last survey?

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Old 16-09-2016, 20:32   #14
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Will 60K buy a good bluewater boat ?

Look at the "Southern Cross" or the "Whitby". Noting your price point, And both very able boats.


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I have seen some Pearsons in your size and price range. Would be interested in opinions on a 38-42 80s vintagePearson as blue water capable.
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