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Old 24-07-2011, 23:10   #46
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Re: Why Cal ?

Cal 34's, especially those built before '68, with the thick layup hulls that have been taken care of. Cal 40's, an acknowledged world cruiser hull that if upgraded still commands a premium, 50-65k last I looked. Cal 46 for space, comfort and extended family possibilities, but a lot of boat to maintain and pay for parking.

I know about price point and this is a good time for those looking. Don't forget about the decision point as well. I don't mean to harass you too much, but a friendly amount for sure, as I know a wad of green is necessary when moving on a boat, not to mention a certain off-center mental state that allows forays into an uncertain future with guns blazing. See ya, Salty!
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Old 24-07-2011, 23:14   #47
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Re: Why Cal ?

Yehaw speakeasy. Quite aware of those yummy extra costs. Cals give me extra ammo for monkey boat guns!
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Old 24-07-2011, 23:33   #48
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Here's a video clip from my friend Steve Waterloo racing his Cal 40 Shaman. <object width="640" height="390"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/bmPgFE2KPCM...</param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowScriptAccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/bmPgFE2KPCM...dded&version=3" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" allowScriptAccess="always" width="640" height="390"></embed></object>
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Old 25-07-2011, 05:54   #49
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Re: Why Cal ?

Can't add much to above but I'm on my 3rd Cal: 20, 24, and 25. Gonna get a 40 when I grow up.
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Old 25-07-2011, 08:59   #50
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Our first boat was a Cal 21. It was a solid boat except that heavy swing keel. The cables were at such different angle it would bind up on the drum and result in flat spots and cable failure. A few times a season it would slip where attatched to the keel. 500 lbs of dragging keel was a pain and the only way to fix it was to swim under the boat and fix it.
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Old 25-07-2011, 09:20   #51
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Re: Why Cal ?

Great boats for the money. They come in all sizes, and differ quite a bit from size to size. Was thinking about a 39 until I bought the Pearson 424. I've seen some Cal 34s for sinfully low prices.
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Old 25-07-2011, 10:07   #52
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Re: Why Cal ?

I think I made a mistake by starting this topic. Before, there was very little discussion on Cals here on CF. Now, everyone will know about them and the pickings will be small on yacht world!
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Old 25-07-2011, 10:14   #53
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Many, many Cals are not on Yachtworld. The 40's tend to trade word-of-mouth. And others are at low prices that discourage broker listings.
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Old 25-07-2011, 10:18   #54
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...The 40's tend to trade word-of-mouth...
That would explain a lot of things!
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Old 25-07-2011, 10:21   #55
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The 40's tend to trade word-of-mouth.
It's still possible to marry your way into Cal 40 ownership, but you have to be waaaaay cute.
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Old 25-07-2011, 10:30   #56
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It's still possible to marry your way into Cal 40 ownership, but you have to be waaaaay cute.

I can be cute!

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Old 25-07-2011, 10:54   #57
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Yeha...they are plugged as "blue water ocean racers". But, I was surprised that the interiors are quite nice. Besides speed, I particularly like the layout of racing cockpits and decks - easier to move around in...oh and some of them have tillers.

Not sure about righting moment/stability curve, but a deep keel is of interest to me for blue water.

Just something to think about
Other things to worry about with racer/cruisers - a random list plucked from my neuronic connections:

- rod rigging: it ages worse than wire rigging
- general abuse: racers *can* get more rough usage, although lots of cruising boats have abuse as well
- tankage: frequently under sized on racers, and sometimes no holding tank
- line layout: racers rarely have halyards led aft
- reefer & galley: can be tiny or missing

I'm sure I'll think of more items later...
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Old 25-07-2011, 11:06   #58
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Another factor to consider with Cal boats is that they are slow beasts. The only Cals that get under 100 PHRF are the 48, the 44 shallow draft, and one of the 39s. And the best of them is only 87 (Eastern Long Island Sound rating). I know a lot of cruisers don't care about speed, but when you're trying to get out of the way of a front or make good time, you'll need the speed.

So, back to your idea of a used racer-cruiser
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Another factor to consider with Cal boats is that they are slow beasts.
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Compared to which boat of the same 1960's age? Name one...
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I've sailed a lot on Cal 20, 22, 2-30, 39. Oldest '69 newest '83. All great boats
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