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Old 06-10-2015, 03:07   #31
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Re: Why are the Amel Super Maramu SO ugly?

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Ever try to get the starter motor off the Yanmar powered model ? Major un-plumbing and un-wiring job.Real PITA.
Blue Stocking....Congratulations! How long did it take you to find the one part on the boat that's tough to get at to work on. Replaced my starter last week in a couple of hours. I'll take that though, given the ridiculously good access to pretty much every other main system.

Steady Hand.....Minor point, but a couple of the exterior photos are actually of an older Mango or a Maramu. In addition to some hull, equipment and layout differences, visually there are a number of differences, but the main one is the stern. Regarding the floor boards.......pre-2000 Super Maramu's didn't have the blue floorboards.

To the OP. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder I guess. While you're dreaming and superficially kicking tires, I'll go back to cruising full time with my family on a boat that's taken us halfway around the world so far and makes us smile every time we come back to her. Best of luck in your hunt.

Now, off to find which one of the 50 cabinets my wife put the good rum from Martinique in. Hey look at that sunset...and both fridges have ice cubes in them! All's good.
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Old 06-10-2015, 04:36   #32
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Re: Why are the Amel Super Maramu SO ugly?

Henri Amel died in 2005.
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I donít see any blue floors, nor yellow sinks, in their current offering.
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Old 06-10-2015, 04:59   #33
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Re: Why are the Amel Super Maramu SO ugly?

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Henri Amel died in 2005.
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I donít see any blue floors, nor yellow sinks, in their current offering.
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Well that's just beautiful. They got it right, finally.
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Old 06-10-2015, 05:00   #34
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To the OP. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder I guess. While you're dreaming and superficially kicking tires, I'll go back to cruising full time with my family on a boat that's taken us halfway around the world so far and makes us smile every time we come back to her. Best of luck in your hunt.
I'm happy for you

I'm not kicking tires. I'm saving up and doing research and studying for the ship exam over the winter.
Ready to sail and learn in 2016.
Ready for bigger and longer sail in 2017, I hope.
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Re: Why are the Amel Super Maramu SO ugly?

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The answer is simple, the designer, builder, is legally blind. ...
Beat me too it! The interior looked fine to him!
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Old 06-10-2015, 05:26   #36
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Re: Why are the Amel Super Maramu SO ugly?

Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder.
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Old 06-10-2015, 05:33   #37
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Re: Why are the Amel Super Maramu SO ugly?

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Blue Stocking....Congratulations! How long did it take you to find the one part on the boat that's tough to get at to work on. Replaced my starter last week in a couple of hours. I'll take that though, given the ridiculously good access to pretty much every other main system.

Steady Hand.....Minor point, but a couple of the exterior photos are actually of an older Mango or a Maramu. In addition to some hull, equipment and layout differences, visually there are a number of differences, but the main one is the stern. Regarding the floor boards.......pre-2000 Super Maramu's didn't have the blue floorboards.

To the OP. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder I guess. While you're dreaming and superficially kicking tires, I'll go back to cruising full time with my family on a boat that's taken us halfway around the world so far and makes us smile every time we come back to her. Best of luck in your hunt.

Now, off to find which one of the 50 cabinets my wife put the good rum from Martinique in. Hey look at that sunset...and both fridges have ice cubes in them! All's good.
I enjoyed reading your post above.
Good points!

Yes, the photos I posted were from my Amel Maramu file, which does have mostly photos from the boats built in the 1990s mixed models. I did not tag those photos by specific model or year, so kept them in my mixed file on Amel
Maramu.

I would enjoy any of them.
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Old 06-10-2015, 08:38   #38
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Re: Why are the Amel Super Maramu SO ugly?

Our SM looks very good after our refit. We have a new modern boat with a nearly new Volvo TMD 22 (<700 hrs), A Onan genset of <400 hrs, new standing and running rigging, teak flooring, Corian galley, modern appliances.

A refit will cure the "dated" items on an SM. She still remains a superb blue water boat which is what we wanted. Far better value for money than HR/Oysters etc... IMO of course.

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Re: Why are the Amel Super Maramu SO ugly?

Anyone have a photo of the "blue floor (sole" mentioned earlier?

I have seen two boats with a blue floor (rubber nonskid) and neither was an Amel.
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Re: Why are the Amel Super Maramu SO ugly?

I dont really mind the yellow..or really even the blue..BUT the heavily grainy looking "wood" does put me off a bit. Could be just the one I have seen..I am sure there are options. I prefer a lighter interior to give the space more of an open feel..you know, small spaces should never be dark colors, etc. Maybe the blue was meant to give you the impression that you are actually on the water when you are inside rather than just when in the cockpit. Dont know. I do know that if I had the money to buy this boat I would not let the floor color deter me.
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Re: Why are the Amel Super Maramu SO ugly?

A few weeks ago we were anchored in Baie Kuto on the Ile de Pins in New Caledonia. There was an Amel Santorini there as well, and it looked pretty good... and suddenly I realized that it was rigged as a sloop, not a ketch! I was astonished, for I had thought ALL Amels were ketches. Has anyone else seen such a vessel? I was hoping to have a word with the owner, but before I could make contact they departed the anchorage.

I thought it looked better than the ketch rigged ones, but that is a personal thing.

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Re: Why are the Amel Super Maramu SO ugly?

Before we bought our boat, we where looking at boats in the 2-3x price range and actually looked at two Super Maramus. I love the overall focus on Go-anywhere-ness and low maintenance. I found the more I read about them the more I liked them.

However, when we went and checked them out in person, the interior layout made the boat feel much smaller than most others in that size range. I also just couldn't get used to the aesthetics, which I know in my heart is a stupid reason to buy or not buy a boat, but....

Anyway for the money there are other boats we liked much better and in the end we decided to go smaller, cheaper, and much sooner than we originally intended.
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A few weeks ago we were anchored in Baie Kuto on the Ile de Pins in New Caledonia. There was an Amel Santorini there as well, and it looked pretty good... and suddenly I realized that it was rigged as a sloop, not a ketch! I was astonished, for I had thought ALL Amels were ketches. Has anyone else seen such a vessel? I was hoping to have a word with the owner, but before I could make contact they departed the anchorage.

I thought it looked better than the ketch rigged ones, but that is a personal thing.

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Googling Amel Santorini images shows several sloops.
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Re: Why are the Amel Super Maramu SO ugly?

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OMG you didn't just compare that to Scandinavian design!?
It's on!

Scandinavian design??
What ?... Like IKEA??

I strayed aboard a Hanse at a boat show recently... it looked like an IKEA interior.....
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Re: Why are the Amel Super Maramu SO ugly?

I agree with your premise -- yes, ugly as sin. Remarkably unaesthetic boats.

But to answer your question -- no, there's no good substitute, as far as I know. They are real cruising machines. With more years and miles of experience, I appreciate the design approach more and more.

With the years and miles I have become increasingly dissatisfied with series-made boats for my particular needs, and so if I ever have another boat, I will most likely custom build something.

If you can close your eyes and swallow the aesthetics, the Amels are outstanding devices for cruising and at a knock-down price.
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