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Old 05-10-2015, 12:03   #16
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Re: Why are the Amel Super Maramu SO ugly?

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The Amel boats are certainly very marine, safe and spacious.
There are boats as valid and secure, much more beautiful and more performing for example Najad and Halberg Rassy
I'm not familiar with the Najad, but IMO Halberg Rassy is the antithesis of both beautiful and performing.
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Re: Why are the Amel Super Maramu SO ugly?

They were and are designed by a Frenchman......Captain Henri Amel whose goal was to have a standardized open ocean cruising boat mostly for couples.....
I agree with you but they are really a "cult".
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Re: Why are the Amel Super Maramu SO ugly?

The "Beauty is in the Eye of the Beholder" principle always should be remembered when one is discussing design or aesthetics.

I think any thread discussing the merits of design or visual appeal should include at least two things:

1. Photos of the boat being criticized by the OP

2. Photos of the boats the OP does like (so we can see his/her taste in boats).

In other words, show us what you see and like as well as don't like.

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Old 05-10-2015, 12:21   #19
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Re: Why are the Amel Super Maramu SO ugly?

I had never seen one before So I looked at one on Yacht World. And wouldn't you know...the one I looked at did not have bright blue floors Just regular old teak and holly sole. The yellow sink though....totally up-gradable.


Beats the plaid upholstery I have seen on some boats though. You know the kind...the stuff that looks like the Brady Bunch took to sea.
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Re: Why are the Amel Super Maramu SO ugly?

The beauty is in the onlookers eye. And that's probably the whole answer.

If you do not like Amel's interior, do not buy one. You do not like colours? Get a Dutch or a Swedish boat. The French are known for joy de vivre, and so are their boats. Mediterranean vs. Nordic. Almodovar vs. Bergman.

Bonus answer: I am afraid if you take an Amel on its features then they are pretty alone in the field, vast majority of other boats of this size are either charter-oriented or otherwise compartialised.

On the second thought, try Cigale. Nearly as simple as an Amel but different colourset inside.

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Re: Why are the Amel Super Maramu SO ugly?

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The "Beauty is in the Eye of the Beholder" principle always should be remembered when one is discussing design or aesthetics.

I think any thread discussing the merits of design or visual appeal should include at least two things:

1. Photos of the boat being criticized by the OP

2. Photos of the boats the OP does like (so we can see his/her taste in boats).

In other words, show us what you see and like as well as don't like.

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Note: I happen to like the look, layout, use of materials, headroom, and appreciate the design and practical engineering or design of the boats for their designed purpose.

I looked at one of these with a friend of mine who eventually bought one. Whoever took those pictures was a real artist with a camera. He must had was a lightening bolt to light it up. I found the interior dark and prison like with security bars over the hatches. The are at least 50 compartments for storage which was a plus but you will need a data base to find things you have stored. That being said, it was built like a tanks but with quirky french touches. I would feel very safe going offshore but with a small center cockpit you would spend a lot of time below. I would feel depressed. YMMV
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Re: Why are the Amel Super Maramu SO ugly?

Steady, I didn't see anything ugly in any of the photos. The hullform, at least above the water, impressed me as a good sea boat with attributes I look for; reserve bouancy, overhangs, a small reverse counter, nice wheelhouse, strong looking ketch rig. Nice boat that is out of my reach.
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Re: Why are the Amel Super Maramu SO ugly?

They are good strong safe boats easy for a couple to sail. They are well thought out and comfortable. They have plenty of tank capacity and sturdy well built equipment. Why every boat doesn't come with a hard dodger I will never understand. Have never seen one with blue plastic floors but the green cushions aren't my taste however someone thought they were a good idea.

They are a true passagemaker and part of that genre is that they are easy to maintain.
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Re: Why are the Amel Super Maramu SO ugly?

Ever try to get the starter motor off the Yanmar powered model ? Major un-plumbing and un-wiring job.Real PITA.
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Re: Why are the Amel Super Maramu SO ugly?

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Ever try to get the starter motor off the Yanmar powered model ? Major un-plumbing and un-wiring job.Real PITA.
Yes, but that is about par for the course is it not? I read lots of posts about the heartache people go through to get their starters off, including lifting the motor.
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Re: Why are the Amel Super Maramu SO ugly?

Ugly is a strong word! I wouldn't use that word even on your typical multihull or some of the new pizza styled wonders.
The Amel is designed for a purpose and form follows function. Colours are easy to change and everyone has different opinions on colours. The Amel will cross oceans with ease and while not a speed bomb will still turn in a good days run while making it easy on the crew. A much better choice for crossing oceans than your typical entry level production boat. The more ocean miles you sail them the prettier they become. ( no I don't own one)
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Old 05-10-2015, 18:32   #27
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Ugly is in the eye of the beholder.


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When I had both my cataracts fixed everything looked much brighter. Maybe some designers need their cataracts fixed. On the other hand some buyers may not have had theirs fixed yet and the colors seem subdued to them.
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Re: Why are the Amel Super Maramu SO ugly?

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Re: Why are the Amel Super Maramu SO ugly?

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The "Beauty is in the Eye of the Beholder" principle always should be remembered when one is discussing design or aesthetics.

I think any thread discussing the merits of design or visual appeal should include at least two things:

1. Photos of the boat being criticized by the OP

2. Photos of the boats the OP does like (so we can see his/her taste in boats).

In other words, show us what you see and like as well as don't like.

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Since the Amel Super Maramu has been mentioned as the subject of this thread, and not every member of CF will know what they look like, here are a few photos from my files.

Note: I happen to like the look, layout, use of materials, headroom, and appreciate the design and practical engineering or design of the boats for their designed purpose.

Id like one of those!! I'd get rid of that cheap painting in the dinette though and hang an original Picasso instead.
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Re: Why are the Amel Super Maramu SO ugly?

Haha, maybe it's because I'm Finnish, but I also don't appreciate the interior of Amels from the pics and videos I've seen. Spotted a Super Maramu in Sardinia last summer and have to say it's an impressive boat from the outside and I don't mind the exterior looks at all. The interior design to me also seems a bit strange and not very appealing. I do like a classic wood interior, but somehow the cabinetry + color scheme looks off. Also the lay out of the master cabin and fore cabin are a bit special. I'm sure these are functional choices and I have a hunch that spending any amount of time on one could change my mind.
That said, I'm still drawn to a Santorin as a next boat, if we ever choose to venture farther than Europe. The Super Maramu's too big and expensive.
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