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Old 28-08-2016, 18:42   #16
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Re: Which is the most seaworthy sailboat model you can think of?

I have gone right off Beneteaus. I will never go to sea unless its a Swan 112 footer.
Do they have an ice maker?
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Old 28-08-2016, 18:52   #17
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Re: Which is the most seaworthy sailboat model you can think of?

I don't think it is the maker or model of the boat it is how well you can hold on to the mast. Start there.

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Old 28-08-2016, 18:56   #18
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I don't think it is the maker or model of the boat it is how well you can hold on to the mast. Start there.

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Re: Which is the most seaworthy sailboat model you can think of?

The only hurricane I have been in was when the offseason one marched up the coast in 1983 and were caught off Point Conception about 60 miles out in a CT 41 delivery. I had a very low opinion of Taiwanese boats at the time but I was amazed that 1) we survived and, 2) so did the boat! We were on our beams end for much of the blow with the mast lying in the water and ports submerged! My opinion of Taiwanese boat builders was raised immeasurably with that experience. I had laid out warps, no sea anchor, had a storm sail up on a separate track than the main. The biggest mistake I made was tying down the helm which snapped the steering cable when the vessel was picked up and thrown sideways. Other than that, the only damage was below where cans were flying around and dinged up the bulkheads a bit, my pride and the relationship with my wife who left me shortly after for trying to kill her! Zee' will be pleased to hear how tough her boat is... Cheers, Phil
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offseason one marched up the coast in 1983 and were caught off Point Conception about 60 miles out in a CT 41 delivery.
Is that California's Point Conception?
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Re: Which is the most seaworthy sailboat model you can think of?

I was on a mooring in Hurricane Gonzalo. The report was 102 knots. I doubt i had that in my spot.
To tell you, honestly, and without my normal humour, to be at sea in what we had is not ability of a boat its just luck.

Luck if some huge wave, that would smash a container ship, doesnt hit you.

Every day we go to sea we sea white caps. Some we hit, some just miss us off the bow or stern, some hit us with no effect. At sea in a hurricane it must be similar: some huge waves breaking do so astern, some forward... But if we clock one right on the noggin its goodnight to you, its goodnight from me.


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Old 29-08-2016, 02:14   #22
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I'd look for a boat that is also comfortable being a submarine. I am not being a wiseacre... In that condition I am imagining, since I have not been in a hurricane yet, that I'd have a para-anchor out and a boat that can handle being washed over frequently, and is very good at righting itself when knocked down. So not a flat bottom, wide hull with a fin keel. Very stout construction so it can be thrown off a wave and not crack when it lands. Heavy, deep displacement for comfort. I'd also like a boat with a cockpit that when full of water does not let it drain down the companionway. And, believe it or not I am thinking low freeboard is preferable to give less surface for the seas to slam around. But I'll defer to all those who have ridden out a hurricane.
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Old 29-08-2016, 02:29   #23
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Re: Which is the most seaworthy sailboat model you can think of?

There is a great thread on another forum by Bob Perry. His 69yo friend is sailing a Baba 40 nonstop/no canals around the world alone. I think Bob got an email every so often and would post them. The Baba 40 is a well respected boat but the SEAMANSHIP is what really shines throughout the thread. Lots of things can go wrong on seaworthy boats. Having the mind to fix them is the difference.
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Old 29-08-2016, 07:12   #24
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In 2013.. 0r maybe it was 2014 2 boats set sail from the Caribe for the Azores.. one 35ft with 3 crew.. the other 70ft with 7 crew... both disappeared near the Azores without trace..
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Re: Which is the most seaworthy sailboat model you can think of?

I think plenty of maxi / luxury yachts are very seaworthy.

Basically anything above 100ft long is as bomb proof as it gets.

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Old 29-08-2016, 09:02   #26
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Re: Which is the most seaworthy sailboat model you can think of?

Etap is the only sailboat I'm aware of that claims to be "Unsinkable"
http://www.etapyachting.com/
I'm not sure how much comfort one could derive from such claims.
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this ability to handle worse weather than most, something is sacrificed.


Like a Westsnail?
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Old 29-08-2016, 10:02   #28
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Re: Which is the most seaworthy sailboat model you can think of?

I buddy boated with Kiwi Roa, which was designed and built for expedition sailing to Antartica. It was pretty stout, and sailed well too.

About €œKiwi Roa€

FWIW, I've admired Sir Peter Blake's Seamaster at the dock, but never sailed on her. Another go-anywhere aluminum boat.
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Re: Which is the most seaworthy sailboat model you can think of?

This one will get you about as close as you can by the descriptions above.

Quayboats

Ted Brewer describe ours as a "half tide rock" which sounds pretty submarineish to me.

There s a lot of similarity to the Rhodes 41 discussed above but it is 44' and being steel it is heavier.

Heavy and tougher than I am.

I think in competent hands she will do about as well as you can expect.

You are writing a book, no? I'm guessing you want to put your character in some ultimate type situation and have them survive, maybe washed up on a beach? But you want it to be credible?


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Re: Which is the most seaworthy sailboat model you can think of?

I think a Dutch sailing barge could have many benefits in a hurricane:

- they are welded and have extremely strong mooring/docking/anchoring gear,
- they can lower the mast,
- the have low topsides,
- they can lift the boards and so control sailing at anchor to some extent,
- many have doghouses making it comfy for the anchor watch.

They are easy to restore.

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