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Old 29-09-2010, 10:59   #1
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Which Hull Is the Safest ?

Hello Everybody,

I am also a newbe in sailing and would like some answers from you seasoned sailors. If you are up to it.

Every newbe is very much concerned with safety and I am no exception to that.
Read many articles, got some books on sailing and I still donít know which type of boat is the safest.

I read that trimarans are the safest because they are almost impossible to capsize and even if they do, they will float upside down. They are also very light which begs the question of how sturdy are they. Do they shatter when they hit a rock?
Mono hulls are much heavier and not exactly for shallow waters but they are sturdier.

How does (for example) an F9 trimaran handles storms compared to a 30í Alberg?

I would like to read or hear more about these two kinds of hulls (I donít like Cats) if anybody had experience with them or have some good source of information about them.

I read many times that the level of safety depends on the experience of the sailor.
To eliminate the sailor part, what would happen to an F9 or a 30í Alberg if in a really bad storm around Cape Horn, (all sails down) the sailors take refuge in the cabin? Will the boats survive this bad storm without any input from the sailors and without damage or which one has a better chance to survive it?

Thanks for your input.
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Old 29-09-2010, 11:20   #2
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Mono hulls are much heavier and not exactly for shallow waters but they are sturdier.

How does (for example) an F9 trimaran handles storms compared to a 30í Alberg?

To eliminate the sailor part, what would happen to an F9 or a 30í Alberg if in a really bad storm around Cape Horn, (all sails down) the sailors take refuge in the cabin? Will the boats survive this bad storm without any input from the sailors and without damage or which one has a better chance to survive it?

Thanks for your input.
Neither the F9 or the Alberg should be anywhere near Cape Horn in a storm, nothing wrong with the boats, they just shouldn't be there. Since weather forecasting is now pretty good for a week ahead, you shouldn't be in a storm either nor are you likely to be.

Rather than worry about which yacht, can I suggest you do some sailing courses to gain basic sailing skills. Doesn't matter what type of boats you learn on the skills are all transferable.

The F9 would be great fun if a little cramped down below.



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Oh and who said mono hulls can't sail in shallow water



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In the same storm that would have the tri scarying you to death, the Alberg could be hove to and the crew down below doing whatever...

those are extremes, everything else will fall somewhere on the curve. Full keel heavy mono toward the Alberg, light weight multis toward the tri

GO SAILING> Nothing teaches like experience...
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I still donít know which type of boat is the safest.


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Sorry, but really, take a grip!

What is the safest CAR in the world?
A) Who knows? Its an OPINION - NOT FACT
B) Who wants to drive the friken Safest car in the world?
C) Do you OWN a VOLVO?
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Any multihull can turn turtle. Any keel boat can sink. Personally, I would not cruise on a multi because I cannot be on deck ALL THE TIME, ready to pop the sheet in a gust to keep it from going over. Some people are willing to take the chance that they won't get caught by a severely steep sea or a micro burst. Had an acquaintance who went missing, his crew drowned because she got tangled in lines when his tri flipped.
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Its the old "I am also a newbie in sailing" now let me ask about a specific weather a newbie wouldn't know, in a location he wouldn't know, in a boat he wouldn't know.

Gees, I get pissed off by wankers.
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Any well designed, well built and well maintained hull sailed by a competent crew is safest.

Next come less perfect hulls sailed by competent crews.

Last come any hulls sailed by ignorant crews.

And, BTW, having some form of rig helps too.

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Thanks for all your inputs!

I would say a Volvo would be safer in an accident than a Fiat 600.

I'll take your advice "MarkJ" without making any derogatory remark and disappear.

Enjoy your life and more power to you helping others!

Yes, yes and yes, I am a looser!
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Gees, I get pissed off by wankers.

LMAO..... Mark... your starting to sound like a singlehander...
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Gees, I get pissed off by wankers.
Just read the whole thread,

At the risk of being hunted to the end of the earth in my fiat.

Mark you have always given me good and respectful advice

We all know you hate multis

But really how will the poor bugger learn if he doesn't ask.

I am sure you once looked at a boat for the first time and instantly asked a question that today you would classify as a "wanker" question. I know I did!

Take a BEX and a lie down mate perhaps when you get up again you won't be such a looser ( it is loser by the way)
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