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Old 01-10-2010, 18:03   #31
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just to set teh record straight The euro NCAP crash tests for the new Fiat 500 model

is 5 stars, The highest available . the Volvo s60 is 4 stars!, your not neccessarily safer in a Volvo, its just good marketing. ( like wise your not neccessarily safer in a Valient either

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Well, you must allow for the fact that Volvoes are crash tested against elks, Fiats against goats.

Otherwise you are correct.

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Old 01-10-2010, 18:06   #32
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To eliminate the sailor part, what would happen to an F9 or a 30 Alberg if in a really bad storm around Cape Horn, (all sails down) the sailors take refuge in the cabin?
Actually, an F9 and an Alberg 30 have a lot more in common than you might think, beginning with the fact that you wouldn't find me anywhere near Cape Horn in either boat.
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Ok... the safest is probably a steel hard chine with long keel...

Next is ferrocement.. round hull and full keel.. pretty much as tough as the steel

Alluminuim comes number 3 for me ...
Arghhhh - this probably explains why a flat panel is more difficult to break than an arch (you could see those cathedrals - they all have FLAT roofs). This also explains why Germans built bunkers in ferro-cement. You can still see some of them sailing around. Last but not least, this also explains why Dykstra, Hoek and other budget designers have their tubs built in alloy.

Or am I mixing things up?

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Arghhhh - this probably explains why a flat panel is more difficult to break than an arch (you could see those cathedrals - they all have FLAT roofs). This also explains why Germans built bunkers in ferro-cement. You can still see some of them sailing around. Last but not least, this also explains why Dykstra, Hoek and other budget designers have their tubs built in alloy.

Or am I mixing things up?

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Steel Cathederals... please Barnakiel... tell me where... I must visit it.... where's me camera...

Ahhh... so thats why I got passed by Westminster Cathederal last month in the Marmara...
and Goering passed my stern on abroad reach...
Barna... I thought you at least were above that.... just goes to show.....
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Old 01-10-2010, 20:00   #35
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Alloy, steel, grp, wood. In this order.

Carbon falls somewhere in between, you can teach me where.

No ferro-cement on my list. How sad ;-)

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The question is "which way would you prefer to die"? The basic rule of thumb is that Mono's will right themselves and sail on after a knockdown. Although they are more prone to sinking if holed. Multis tend to stay afloat when upturned and make a great platform to slowly persish on. Either option has a nasty way of killing you. The advantage of the multi is that you may get a few more days of life before dehydrating or getting hypo or hyperthermia. All of this is rare though.

Having said all that. Buy the boat you like and is suited to the waters you sail in. Otherwise you will always be second guessing your decision. The best way to see whats best in your area is to get to the local clubs and see what they are using.

Location, space, cost, comfort should all be factors in your purchase as well as safety.
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It's safe to stay in the bedroom of Mother's house, walls, floors, & ceiling padded with spare mattresses, eating organic grains & veggies under a steel & concrete roof reading hypo-allergenic books about nutrition and air filtration. If your mind holds out...
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But I like meat & cigars & rum & the sea & adventure & travel & boobies.
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Hey... wot the F*ck do I know.... I know what the Feck I can't say....
I've been told...lmao.
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But I like meat & cigars & rum & the sea & adventure & travel & boobies.
He really said 'boobies'?

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I'm sure it's just the musings of an amateur ornithologist.

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I also like boobies, esp. stewed. I also like good company, can be female.

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