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Jason Flare · 03-02-2017, 16:12

[QUOTE=Liam Wald;2318208]

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Originally Posted by Adelie

Yeah, it's probably best just to do as you are told and/or just stay home!
Geez! Talk about a buzz kill. I wasn't suggesting anyone actually sail a Vega to Antarctica... just sayin' it's a good book and perhaps demonstrates the abilties of the design.

Something got messed up with the quote. I'm not the buzz kill. Trust me!

barnakiel · 03-02-2017, 16:29

At home = where the boat was built.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albin_Vega

They are considered very very basic boats in Sweden and not much sought after for a cruising weapon of choice unless you are a very young and underprivileged person.

If someone sailed one to the Antarctic it is no proof of how good the boat is for this specific purpose but rather of how very desperate, poor or stupid that particular person was.

It is a fine starter boat - robust and simple. But I would pay max 10k and only for a prime condition and very well equipped one (new sails, furlers, new oven, new engine, etc.). And I would not buy one if my intentions were repeated offshore adventures.

Cheers,
b.

buzzstar · 03-02-2017, 16:49

Originally Posted by Adelie View Post

Yeah, it's probably best just to do as you are told and/or just stay home!
Geez! Talk about a buzz kill. I wasn't suggesting anyone actually sail a Vega to Antarctica... just sayin' it's a good book and perhaps demonstrates the abilties of the design.

[QUOTE=Jason Flare;2318259]

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Originally Posted by Liam Wald

Something got messed up with the quote. I'm not the buzz kill. Trust me!

What is all this talk about buzz kill. I feel threatened!

Jason Flare · 03-02-2017, 18:23

I'm not quoting anyone anymore.

buzzstar, you're safe with me. I'm no buzz kill.

pickpaul · 03-02-2017, 22:10

There are plenty of Alberg 30's for sale in the $5-$10k if you keep your eye out on craigslist. Forget brokers at this price point. I think the extra space and standing headroom is worth the effort. Look for one with a yanmar diesel repower. Full disclosure, happy A30 owner.

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seahag · 03-02-2017, 22:34

I've said it before, it's not how cheap you can buy a boat! It's about buying a GOOD boat, and if you pay slightly more for a much better than average example, it will be much more pleasurable and economical in the long run. The advice about junking a recently rebuilt Volvo diesel and fitting on an outboard is not even worth addressing its downright insane. Be careful about taking advice here, this thread is all over the map.

**weavis** · 04-02-2017, 00:11

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Good advice from previous posters. My only additions: Inquire if owner has rebuild records available, do not make it easy to ay no, and look at them, at the very least, the cost. In addition to a survey (as previously mentioned in a post, not one recommended by the broker), get an engine mechanic (one of your choosing, preferably with Volvo expertise) to check things out, including if the hour meter works. Include a test sail/motor. Ask about the water stains. If you still like her, negotiate, negotiate. The owner probably wants to sell, and the broker certainly does, and the latter may be informative (which is not the same as trustworthy) about why she if for sale. If you like her, give it a go.

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Give us a hint. Where is home, and when were you last there?

**weavis** · 04-02-2017, 00:14

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Originally Posted by seahag

I've said it before, it's not how cheap you can buy a boat! It's about buying a GOOD boat, and if you pay slightly more for a much better than average example, it will be much more pleasurable and economical in the long run. The advice about junking a recently rebuilt Volvo diesel and fitting on an outboard is not even worth addressing its downright insane. Be careful about taking advice here, this thread is all over the map.

**weavis** · 04-02-2017, 00:19

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Originally Posted by pickpaul

There are plenty of Alberg 30's for sale in the $5-$10k if you keep your eye out on craigslist. Forget brokers at this price point. I think the extra space and standing headroom is worth the effort. Look for one with a yanmar diesel repower. Full disclosure, happy A30 owner.

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Originally Posted by seahag

I've said it before, it's not how cheap you can buy a boat! It's about buying a GOOD boat, and if you pay slightly more for a much better than average example, it will be much more pleasurable and economical in the long run. The advice about junking a recently rebuilt Volvo diesel and fitting on an outboard is not even worth addressing its downright insane. Be careful about taking advice here, this thread is all over the map.

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barnakiel · 04-02-2017, 06:47

I would say go get a look at it. See if it matches your personality.

Then negotiate the price (aka haggle).

If there is an inboard it is a plus. New engine, new sails, new rigging, etc. make for a vast percentage (at times 100%) of any old small boat.

If the boats fits your dream and matches the cruising grounds well (e.g. draft) then that's about that.

I think 10k is max I would pay for one, even if the inboard and the sails were new.

After all what we are buying is the dream. And this IS priceless.

Let us know what you found.

Cheers,
b.

KetoNomad · 04-02-2017, 08:07

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Originally Posted by gjordan

Question, How are you going to get it back to Canada? Best of Luck. _____Grant.

I'd never put serious thought into traveling this section of coast until now and after doing the research and just seeing how crummy the weather has been lately all up and down the coast, I'm not going to buy the boat, yeah its a good deal but, yeah, sailors with a LOT more experience than me in much bigger vessels have died on the stretch even recently...so nah. I will just use the time to get more experience on other people's boats

I'm sure I can find a really nice, probably even nicer Vega further down the road and I'll have more time, money and experience then

pickpaul · 04-02-2017, 08:08

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Originally Posted by seahag

I've said it before, it's not how cheap you can buy a boat! It's about buying a GOOD boat

If this comment is in response to my Alberg 30 reply, the reason I said it was I have seen both boats in similar condition and price. Everything else being equal, I stand by my statement that the extra 3 ft makes a lot of difference for long term use.

barnakiel · 04-02-2017, 08:37

I think a Vega may be trailer'able in Canada / US.

They are normally moved over the road in Sweden (beam 2.46, I think). In the EU it is max beam 2,5 I think on the road. A plain four wheel trailer too.

You can just pull it to your backyard and store there over the winter then. Saves you heaps on winter dry dock.

b.

barnakiel · 04-02-2017, 08:56

I think a Vega may be trailer'able in Canada / US.

They are normally moved over the road in Sweden (beam 2.46, I think). In the EU it is max beam 2,5 I think on the road. A plain four wheel trailer too.

You can just pull it to your backyard and store there over the winter then. Saves you heaps on winter dry dock.

b.