What's Your Dream Boat ?

[James S]

Originally Posted by stevensuf

what about this one?

Advertisement: Luxury Submarine For Sale » Coolest Gadgets

no probs with pirates on this one!

Finally....a worth while reason to start save-in up!!

[James S]

The articular in the link says 78 million but this http://www.ussubmarines.com/faq/luxury.php3 from their site says 19.7...

[minaret]

Originally Posted by James S

The articular in the link says 78 million but this U.S. Submarines from their site says 19.7...

There's no way you're getting that for 19.7. I'd think 78 reasonable. The max dive depth is much higher than most recreational subs. All in all, a much better effort than rec. subs I have seen in the past. More toys too. You can actually get a Soviet surplus diesel/electric sub for surprisingly cheap. There's one right down the way from me. Wouldn't be a comfortable cruiser without millions in refit though. Still, it has a certain value for sheer braggadacio. You know "let's go down to my Soviet attack sub for cocktails" type thing.

[James S]

Sorry...wrong one...19.7 m is for the Seatle 1000...118ft...still seems cheap for 380 tons.

[Freedom45]

Originally Posted by Dovetailnj

If you could own any older sailboat, let's say between 35' and 45', fully refurbished and in mint condition, what would it be and why?

A Shannon Global 52 is the only boat I would trade my Freedom 45 for

[cruiser6003]

Cabo Rico 40 works for me....

[minaret]

Originally Posted by Freedom45

A Shannon Global 52 is the only boat I would trade my Freedom 45 for

Note the remarkable similarities between the Shannon Global 52 and my Nauticat 52. The Shannon is very similar, except it's a bit smaller and lighter, with twin engines instead of single, and no exterior teak, whereas the Nauticat has loads. The big difference is the Nauticat was a production boat and older models can be bought for a reasonable price, the Global is a custom boat they want a fortune for. I'll find a good profile pic for comparison but here's a start-

[Charlie]

Does the dream come with full service maintenance too. I don't think I would like to have a boat much bigger then a 47' because I would want the ability to single hand her. It's the maintenance cost that gets me.

[yennun]

Originally Posted by Boulter

Hi:

My dream boat...

1 - has 6'5" headroom
2 - 40-45 feet
3 - steel hull
4 - insulated
5 - tough
6 - not an orphan ie at least say 100 made
7 - easy for a large guy to work on
8 - < $150,000 with retrofit
9 - first and only boat, too much work and expense to trade up

I am coming at this late in life with a pragmatic approach. I don't need fast or points well or pretty or new. I want to fit in marinas on the great lakes. I want to be able to load it up with friends and family. I want capability to do high latitudes say Newfoundland or further north. I want to possibly live aboard, even in the winter in Canada. I want the possibility to cruise internationally.

In my 6 months of investigating this sailboat business I think I can conclude:

item 1: likely no boat exists, or if any do they do not meet item 5, 6 and/or 8
3 and 6 won't both be met
3 very rare in general, especially NA
boats that match my list more likely to be found in the Atlantic or Pacific oceans than the great lakes

Best matches so far are boats like Whitby 42, CS36T, Niagara 35 CSY 44 Alberg 35.

I think in another 6 months I'll probably give up on the headroom. That will open up a whole other bunch of contenders, especially of shorter length. That will also make item 8, cost very easy. I'll likely also have to give up steel, and insulate a boat myself or forgo cold weather usage.

Boulter

Have you seen/considered Waterline Yachts? May be a bit pricey, I think they are built on a semi custom basis, but definitely not an orphan. I have seen a few around and they seem to be top quality.

Oh, and my dream boat is a Hallberg-Rassy 42 Enderlein ketch.
http://sailboatdata.com/viewrecord.asp?class_id=2097

[SurferShane]

This one is close to perfect: not too big, oozes style, full keel, ketch rig.......,,,,,,

Cape George Cutters § History § Cecil Lange / William Atkin / traditional full keel sailboat

[Rick57]

Discovery 55....with a six figure budget to enjoy it.

[Juniper]

An Alden/Pearson Countess B layout

[hummingway]

Originally Posted by SurferShane

This one is close to perfect: not too big, oozes style, full keel, ketch rig.......,,,,,,

Cape George Cutters § History § Cecil Lange / William Atkin / traditional full keel sailboat

Beautiful interior. Love it.

[Cheechako]

Originally Posted by SurferShane

This one is close to perfect: not too big, oozes style, full keel, ketch rig.......,,,,,,

Cape George Cutters § History § Cecil Lange / William Atkin / traditional full keel sailboat

Yeah, the Cape Georges are wonderful for sure. Heavy... I always like their 31 footer. take a look at the interior in this one: http://www.capegeorgecutters.com/brokerage/halo.html

[hummingway]

They have some interesting projects in their shop: Cape George Cutters § Under Construction § Cecil Lange / William Atkin / traditional full keel sailboat

The Bristol Channel Cutter hull is likely going to Ladysmith BC to be finished there. I believe the shop there has the rights to that design.