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Old 19-07-2012, 21:19   #1
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What's the Best I Can Get that's Bluewater/Offshore Capable?

For the following prices:
- 0-$10,000
- 0-$25,000
- 0-$50,000
And then up from there. Ideally I want something +37ft and -45ft.
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Re: what's the best I can get that's Bluewater/offshore capable?

0-10k Switlik 8-man life raft
under 25k Cal 34
under 50k Cal 40
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Re: what's the best I can get that's Bluewater/offshore capable?

Please define best.

How many people as regular crew? Any kids?
Sailing experience?
Are the above budgets for buy or buy&outfit?
Where are do you want to sail out of? Which coast do you want to set off from and more specifically where on that coast?
Where to you want to go?
Are you looking to cruise extensively or liveaboard and occasionally take several weeks or months off to nip around the Caribbean or Baja?
Any really strong preferences to start with? (full/fin keel, mono/multi, spade/skeg/attached rudder, sloop/cutter/mizzen rigged)
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Old 20-07-2012, 11:12   #4
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Please define best.

How many people as regular crew? Any kids?
Sailing experience?
Are the above budgets for buy or buy&outfit?
Where are do you want to sail out of? Which coast do you want to set off from and more specifically where on that coast?
Where to you want to go?
Are you looking to cruise extensively or liveaboard and occasionally take several weeks or months off to nip around the Caribbean or Baja?
Any really strong preferences to start with? (full/fin keel, mono/multi, spade/skeg/attached rudder, sloop/cutter/mizzen rigged)
Livaboard 6 months out of the year, buy the boat, multi or mono, 2-4 people, I could buy anywhere on the us west coast, pnw, Mexico, Alaska, I'm not knowledgable on keel design so whatever is better for Bluewater cruising, (I plan to cruise the south pacific) sloop, but I'm open to other rigs.
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Re: what's the best I can get that's Bluewater/offshore capable?

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Livaboard 6 months out of the year, buy the boat, multi or mono, 2-4 people, I could buy anywhere on the us west coast, pnw, Mexico, Alaska, I'm not knowledgable on keel design so whatever is better for Bluewater cruising, (I plan to cruise the south pacific) sloop, but I'm open to other rigs.
How many to liveaboard? And where? By liveaboard I assume you mean at a fixed location, dock or anchor, and the rest of the year will be cruising.
You really need to nail down your crew size better.

With 2 adults you would be fine on the Cal34. For 2adults + 2 kids you could get away with the Cal34 but would be more comfortable on a Cal 36 or Cal40. With 4 adults you could get away with a Cal36 but would be more comfortable on a Cal40. Other options are Columbia 34&43.

The Cals have moderate draft keels that are of moderate length longitudinally. This provides decent directional stability so the boat requires less effort to stay on course and provides decent roll damping.

Within the budget indicated the only multi's you would find would be serious project boats.

Most of the boats available in your price range would be older monohulls set up as sloops or mizzen rigs. Whichever you get I would add a release-able forestay for a staysail, complete with intermediate shrouds and running backstays. This would minimize the number of sails you need to store below, provide redundant support for the mast and balance the boat better in high winds.
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Old 19-09-2012, 19:56   #6
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Crew of 2
Location varies plan to live in Alaska 6 months travel six months.
And let's say up to 100-125k$
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Re: what's the best I can get that's Bluewater/offshore capable?

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Crew of 2
Location varies plan to live in Alaska 6 months travel six months.
And let's say up to 100-125k$
That price ranges opens up your options quite a bit. For a cruising monohull, I really like some of the Gulfstar designs.

See for example: 1975 Gulfstar Ketch Sail Boat For Sale - www.yachtworld.com.
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Re: what's the best I can get that's Bluewater/offshore capable?

WAAAAY too open-ended and vague of a question for any useful answers.
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WAAAAY too open-ended and vague of a question for any useful answers.
Thank you for indicating that Bash's, Belize's and my responses were useless.

Just because the question is too open ended does not make the answers useless, they just aren't useful in the way the OP anticipated. The responses are forcing the OP to clarify his requirements and to think about issues that hadn't occurred to him/her previously.

Also, the OP has had several specific recommendations which can't have been useless.
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Re: What's the Best I Can Get that's Bluewater/Offshore Capable?

There are several Tartan 37's that have circumnavigated and these can be had for under 50K, but you'll need to budget for upgrades
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Yeah, I'm playing this by ear learning what I like as I go. And I'm a "HIM".
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Re: What's the Best I Can Get that's Bluewater/Offshore Capable?

Lt. "HIM".

For <10k, the best would most likely be a kevlar canoe - 17'. You'll have enough change for a good salmon rod, a tent, a sleeping bag and a primus stove. That should do it for you in Wasilla

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Re: What's the Best I Can Get that's Bluewater/Offshore Capable?

I have seen Contessa 26 for sale for less than $10,000
The real question is, is that the initial purchase price or does it include the cost of refitting.
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Re: What's the Best I Can Get that's Bluewater/Offshore Capable?

Albin Vega's are known as pretty tough little boats, and all are under 20K. This sailor went around the America's.. you know, the Northwest passage, Bering Sea, and for chits and giggles, around the Horn.
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Re: What's the Best I Can Get that's Bluewater/Offshore Capable?

You should go to yachtworld.com, do an advanced search and plug in all of your criteria. For example, your price range, length of boat, what type of sailing vessel you would like, and then browse the results.
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