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Old 28-01-2012, 20:49   #1
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What to Buy - C&C or Northshore 38's

Hi, Iím new to this forum and a keen sailor thatís trying to make a difficult decision on a cruiser for my wife and I, currently looking at 1) C&C Landfall 38 and 2) Northshore 38, both yachts in the same money and comparable equipment, comes down to final survey I know but looking for any additional information or feedback you may have on preferences and additional technical information. We plan to use the boat for bay cruising and in the future sailing the east coast of Australia and Pacific Islands. Thanks for your help!
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Old 28-01-2012, 21:14   #2
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Re: What to buy C&C or Northshore 38's

With a stated displacement of only 4950kg, the Northshore 38 is very light for a 38 footer. This made it a great club racer and many have done Sydney to Hobarts. It has an easily driven hull which might make it great for inshore and coastal cruising but for crossing oceans I would want something a bit sturdier. And of course, this is the opinion of someone who has never sailed on one. Does anyone know if Northshore are still in production?
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Old 28-01-2012, 22:01   #3
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Re: What to buy C&C or Northshore 38's

Have sailed on Northshore 27 and 33, found them both to be a bit tender. Most of Northshore's designs were Peter Cole's from my memory. I used to know John Buck, who owned the company at one time back in the 80's, before the 38, and he suggested that coastal work was the most that they were designed for. Maybe the 38 was different, i do not know.

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Re: What to buy C&C or Northshore 38's

Greetings and welcome aboard the CF, briesey.
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Old 30-01-2012, 00:39   #5
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Re: What to buy C&C or Northshore 38's

All thanks for the replies, I will leave the post running to see what else I can learn, am sailing the C&C this coming weekend so will see how she goes, will report back. In the Melbourne area if someone can recommend a competent survey(er) would be appreciated.
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Re: What to buy C&C or Northshore 38's

---------I spoke today to the folks at work, a chandlery, and one of the guys who is very experienced said that he has sailed on a Northshore 38 and would take it out into blue water so i guess do not right it off yet. All suggested a Cavalier, a la Kay Cottee, as an great alternative though.


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---------I spoke today to the folks at work, a chandlery, and one of the guys who is very experienced said that he has sailed on a Northshore 38 and would take it out into blue water so i guess do not right it off yet. All suggested a Cavalier, a la Kay Cottee, as an great alternative though.

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Thanks for asking around, comment taken on board....Briesey
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Re: What to Buy - C&C or Northshore 38's

I am also a new member and struggling with a similar decision. I have narrowed down the search to an Islander 44. How would you compare the Islander 44 with a similar length C&C.
Any feedback would be most appreciated.
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Re: What to Buy - C&C or Northshore 38's

Just picking up on the Cavalier 37 comment I happen to have one for sale that is very well equiped for cruising.Similar size to the NS 38, the C&C 38 is a little larger internally.
Check out our private listing on the coastal passage web site or through Vicsail at Pittwater.
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Re: What to Buy - C&C or Northshore 38's

The northshore 38 is more racer than cruiser. They have a huge main which could tend to remove your head in an uncontrolled gybe. Tend to agree with those suggesting the Cavalier 37. Don't know the c and c.
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Just picking up on the Cavalier 37 comment I happen to have one for sale that is very well equiped for cruising.Similar size to the NS 38, the C&C 38 is a little larger internally.
Check out our private listing on the coastal passage web site or through Vicsail at Pittwater.
Thanks, I'm interested can you send more detail and possibly photos?
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Briesey,

I owned a C&C 38 Landfall for 8 years. The boat is fast, but they don't call them C&C "Landfills" for nothing. It was their effort to create a cruiser from a racer. Absolutely not an offshore vessel!

My boat was quick, but required constant work. Be careful of soft decks and rudder issues. Had problems with rudder stocks and the nylon bearings.

I enjoyed my boat when it was running well. But would certainly never recommend it to anyone - especially for offshore. Perhaps you could look at other C&Cs, or Jeanneau. For what you're talking about, you might want to also check out the Passport 40.

BTW- used to have a summer home in The Gap in Brisbane. I really miss sailing Australia!
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Re: What to Buy - C&C or Northshore 38's

Thanks for your comments, looks like I missed out on the C&C after all this, I sailed the boat it sailed well and I called him afterwards (same day) to make an offer, but was beaten by 15min. As i always say there is a reason for everything........ for those that are interested the boat sold for 85k and the guy had just spent 40k on refit, problem was he had purchased another boat and had to sell.
So currently looking at a Cavalier 37 next weekend and thanks to all for your comments, think I'm on the right track again.
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Re: What to Buy - C&C or Northshore 38's

There were two Northshore 38s in the Sydney to Hobart 1998 Race that tragically claimed 2 lives and out of some 115 entrants only 44 finished. Both the North Shore 38s finished. These yachts have been represented in every Sydney Hobart Race since 1983. I think they can claim some credibility. They do tend to be more orientated to being a racing/
cruiser but many are cruised and can be sailed safely by a couple.
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