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Old 13-10-2013, 17:00   #16
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Old 13-10-2013, 17:28   #17
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Whoaaaa. Have a look at THIS Hylas 54: http://hylas54.com/romanylife/hylas-54-for-sale.php
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Re: What Should We Look At?

If you have $500k to work with, make sure you add a few Oysters to your list of yachts to look at.

Another idea which might put you back into the ICW would be a catamaran. A 45 ft catamaran like a Lagoon 450 offers twice the living space over any of the Hylas' you're considering.
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If you have $500k to work with, make sure you add a few Oysters to your list of yachts to look at.

Another idea which might put you back into the ICW would be a catamaran. A 45 ft catamaran like a Lagoon 450 offers twice the living space over any of the Hylas' you're considering.
76ft mast height
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Re: What Should We Look At?

The op is looking at a Hylas 54. I know the Lagoon 450 has a 76 ft mast height.
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The op is looking at a Hylas 54. I know the Lagoon 450 has a 76 ft mast height.
Yea, but how does that put you back in the ICW?
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Yea, but how does that put you back in the ICW?
Well... The same way You've been put back in the ignore list.
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If you're looking at a large and serious blue water boat then whether it can travel up and down the ICW is not part of the selection criteria?
The ICW in my experience is a pain in the butt and if going outside there are plenty of places to duck inside.
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If you're looking at a large and serious blue water boat then whether it can travel up and down the ICW is not part of the selection criteria?
The ICW in my experience is a pain in the butt and if going outside there are plenty of places to duck inside.
It might not be for you or I, but the OP made it a specific requirement for what he was requesting in this thread. At the same time he required shoal draft for the Keys. So that puts some pretty strict limits on any boat as large as what he is asking about. Maybe a large centerboard ketch. Not sure if any of the ketch Sundeer/Deerfoots had a center board or shoal enough draft.
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Didn't mention ketch either so to get a plus 50' loa, -65' ICW and -5.5' draft is going to dramatically reduce the options I would have thought. Also required for offshore passage making. In the price range I wouldn't have thought there are many boats that fit the criteria.
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We looked at Hylas 49s and a 54 yesterday. We also went aboard the Stevens 53. We felt we wanted more expansive interior room than the 49. But the 53 was right on the money. BUT the 54 is not ICW mast height. The Stevens was just too strange and clearly meant to be a charter boat. But it was well done and roomy.

I am quickly coming to the conclusion that if we want the room below plus a true blue water yacht the ICW wish is going to have to be compromised. And while the multihulls look appealing re. space below, I don't know that they are as seaworthy. I know, I know. Frenchmen sail them around the world with great regularity, but I'm from Maryland...

If I abandon the draft/height wishes I literally open up a whole world of boats to consider. What remains on the list is a newer, truly stout boat with great wood interior, that can be sailed comfortably by a husband and wife. Guests are a non-issue. As a matter- of-fact, the presence of three cabins and multiple heads seems to me a waste of good space on these larger boats. We want the boat to end up with genset, washer/dryer, a/c for the whole interior, electric winches and up-to-date electronics and sails.
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We bought a boat in 2001 to live on in the short term and ultimately to sail from Florida to Australia. We picked a 1991 Hunter 433 as it was a fit for the budget, had air con, and was ICW friendly - but only just. The bridge clearance was 64.5' but with VHF we used to ping the bridges between Jax and Fort Pierce. The first trip was nerve wracking and even though we had relatively shallow draft, still bumped in a few places. With 2 of us sailing, we managed to get back to Oz.
Fast forward, recently came back to the US to buy a boat, something larger than a 43 and more substantial than the Hunter build. We ended up wit the Tayana 52 as it was a beautiful, solid boat, cutter rig with all of the mechanical stuff we wanted. The downside was it has a 72' bridge clearance and a 6'6" draft. As I said before, you can go up the Fl coast from Fort Pierce to Jax for example and still find places to duck into if the weather kicks up so not being on the ICW isn't such a big deal - UNLESS the trip down the ICW is part of the adventure.
We decided that the 65' ultimately wasn't worth keeping in the criteria because it excluded so many great boats. You would have to then wonder how many of the boats with 65 clearance are just a compromise to cater for the ICW and weekend sailors? IMHO
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Re: What Should We Look At?

For the money and given you want something in the 50 foot range (I'm guessing the Ovni and Boreal are too small, but I love them) that could manage the ICW, how about an Amel.

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It must be an optical illusion but if you look at the photo in Yachtworld of the Super Maramu, and take the height of the mast from waterline to tip, and lay that alongside the hull it looks much longer that 54 feet.
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