Originally Posted by DeepFrz
If you don't like fixing boats I would suggest you find a different hobby/lifestyle or stick with a smaller, simpler boat.
Surely you have heard the old adage that "cruising is just doing boat repair in exotic places"?
Having someone else do the fixing can get very expensive and will not be very fulfilling.
Knowing your boat inside out is a safety
Even a new boat will require a lot of work to make it seaworthy
For me I think Frz has it on the head
You can't relate boats and cars, to different things IMO. At least for me. You can't live in a car, its just a transporter, from one place to another. You cant really upgrade a car. You can't put in new safty features like anti lock breaks, air bags and sonar like the new cars have.
You can do that with a boat. No problem. Just takes time and money
Now you don't have that you say, then I say don't buy a boat. Even the little ones costs and maintaince add up. New or old, no difference. So whats the difference between a newer and older boat....
Well theres the rigging
, but of course you will change that and now have newer rigging
that the newer boat........................
Then theres the Head
, plumping et. all. but of course you can do the same.
can be replaced and all the rest.
in rough shape, repair it. Need a new spar, replace it. Wire bad, replace that to while your at it.
Don't mean to sound like its easy. Its not. Haven't gone sailing in a year, while my boat is being repaired. But i'm on a several year journey.
Could I have done it with a newer boat. NO.
I purchased this Endeavour
40 last year. Paid to much for her, cause the PO, whas poor at managing his money
and paid to much for her, but a lot more than me.. .so in a way I got a good deal... relativlyl speaking. I paid 15-20% at MOST what a new 40 footer would cost, if that. And then there is the outfitting fees
. They add up. Even If I had gone with a newer preowned boat that took a big hit in depreciation, I am still ahead by a wide margin.
In looking at boats in the 40-42' range on yachtworld, 2000-2008 I am struck with how many there are, and the prices. plus many of them imo, and not very attractive to me. In fact, they are kinda ugly. but thats just me.
So why are so many boats for sale
in that range, and whats been happening to them during this time. Probablly sitting in a marina, not being cared for and deterierating. So that means money to you.
Then you buy one of these, and pay 4 times more a month than I do. Why? for a boat that is newer, but is heading for a large refit
anyway just down the road I bet. I don't believe the newer boats are built better than the older ones. More efficently. That means less money paid out and more in the builders pocket with less claims during the warrently. But maybe not the best for long term. There are boats going stong from the 40's to 60's and will still be around if there are owners to care for them in 100 years.
You think a 2006 catalina
or benetau will be in that same shape....
So I paid not to much for my boat and over the next few years plan on putting in double what I paid. She fits us well, and will be around for a good while. When we finally set off for the retirement cruise
in 12 years after the kids
are gone, I WILL KNOW every inch of here, every system, bolt nut, fiting, clamp, and piece of gear
. I will be able to repair it where ever I am. What is that worth to me? Priceless.
So good luck in your search, but remember that if all you want to do is sail, just rent and charter
. In the long run you will be much better off.