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Old 19-12-2015, 05:25   #31
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Re: What compares to a Pearson 32, 323?

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Old 19-12-2015, 10:57   #32
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Re: What compares to a Pearson 32, 323?

Here is an example of a 323 for sale and for 15k?
Now i have to go see it and it is pretty close from where i live.
Sounds good to me? It makes no mention of galley or head.

"Due to my work schedule I am listing my '82 Pearson 323 sailboat for sale.The sailboat is in excellent shape and in winter storage at a ******* Marina. I purchased the sailboat a few years ago and have since upgraded many items on the boat - autopilot - chart plotter - batteries - charger - sails"

Equipment: Sails
140% Genoa Dacron (new 2013)
140% DL3 Recut
140% StringTec (from J105)
Reacher (original but never used)
Main 4 partial battens original but excellent
Main DL3 Recut

Volvo diesel with <700 hours
roller furling
2) Batteries 2011
Battery charger 2011
Added additional breaker panel and fuses
changed GFI
Raymarine Depth and Speed 2012
Raymarine Autopilot xs-5 2012
Lawrance Chartplotter with Navonic Gold Card 2012
Stereo (cd) and 4 speakers 2012
VHF 2012
6 Gal water with engine exchanger 2011
New lines and sheets 2011
3 anchors
sailcover
bimini
3 burner stove and oven LP gas
70 gal water storage
20 fuel
5 PFD 2011
Flare kit 2011

all line have been brought to cockpit with turning blocks and spinlock clutches 2011
Repairs since owned
Propeller shaft log and stuffing box packing replaced
new hoses through out
eliminated Y fitting on waste
Mast (Halyard sheaves)
buffed and waxed hull and deck
replaced hatch cover glass (lexan)
replaced board with Lexan
resealed salon fixed portlights
cleaned upholstry
new headliner 2012
varnished most interior wood and soul
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Old 19-12-2015, 11:02   #33
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Re: What compares to a Pearson 32, 323?

Here is another but a 78, Same price 15K close to where i live also. Both look good in pictures. I need to look at both personally.This one has very high engine hours while the other, the 82 has lower hours and this one is a diesel?
Any opinions? input? thanks!

Specs
Builder: Pearson
Designer: Wm. H. Shaw
Keel: Fin

Dimensions
LOA: 32 ft 3 in
Beam: 10 ft 3 in
LWL: 27 ft 6 in
Maximum Draft: 4 ft 5 in
Displacement: 12800 lbs
Ballast: 4500 lbs
Bridge Clearance: 45 ft 4 in

Engines
Total Power: 23 HP

Engine 1:
Engine Brand: VOLVO
Year Built: 1978
Engine Model: MD 11
Engine Type: Inboard
Engine/Fuel Type: Diesel
Engine Hours: 1875
Drive Type: V Drive
Engine Power: 23 HP


Tanks
Fresh Water Tanks: Plastic (38 Gallons)
Fuel Tanks: 1 Aluminum (30 Gallons)

Electrical Equipment
Electrical Circuit: 110V


ELECTRONICS
Auto Helm 3000 auto pilot

Raytheon ST 60 Speed

Raytheon ST 60 Depth

Raytheon ST 60 wind

West Marine 580 VHF with DSC

Horizon stereo

(2) 12v. Batteries

Pro Mariner auto battery charger

Inverter/Converter



EQUIPMENT
Edson Pedistal Steering

Elk hide wheel covering

Danforth Constellation Compass

Cockpit Cushions

Companion Way Dodger

Swim Ladder

Shore Power Inlet (30) amp w/cord

(2) Lewmar # 43 ST (self tailing) winches

(2) Lewmar # 8 mast winches

Bow Pulpit w/anchor roller

Danforth anchor w/chain & rope rode

Horse Shoe Life Ring

Storage cover and frame

Dock Lines, Fenders, & life Jackets

WINTERS IN HEATED STORAGE





SAILS & RIGGING
North Furling head sail

North Full Batten Main Sail (1993)

Genoa (2001)

Spinnaker w/pole

(extra main and head sails)

Companion Dodger





INTERIOR
Hi-Seas Diesel cabin furnace

Alcohol (3) burner stove & oven

Ice Box refrigeration

Hot water with shower

Head with holding tank

Chart Table at navigation station

Hi/Low table converts to berth
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Old 19-12-2015, 11:27   #34
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Re: What compares to a Pearson 32, 323?

It appears they both have the original Volvo diesel engine.

The first, less than 700 hours. Saw that ad, and it looks clean and well cared for.

The second, "very high engine hours". Haven't seen that ad. How many hours is very high?
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Old 19-12-2015, 12:21   #35
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It appears they both have the original Volvo diesel engine.

The first, less than 700 hours. Saw that ad, and it looks clean and well cared for.

The second, "very high engine hours". Haven't seen that ad. How many hours is very high?
The 78 has 1800+ hrs on the engine, the broker said that this engine would run past 7000 hrs and that 1800hrs was nothing?

It seems like a lot of hours to me don't you think?
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Old 19-12-2015, 12:36   #36
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Re: What compares to a Pearson 32, 323?

For casual weekend sailors, 100 hours per year has pretty much been the norm for the past four decades.
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Re: What compares to a Pearson 32, 323?

1800 Hours is not very high hours. Of course assuming the proper use and maintenance, many thousands of hours is the norm. 6k, 8k, 10k and more can be expected, with proper use and maintenance. Mine has 2500.

Improper use can kill an engine in a few hundred hours on an auxiliary deisel. So it's a bit of a crap shoot.
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Old 19-12-2015, 13:50   #38
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Re: What compares to a Pearson 32, 323?

Why don't you simply post the links?

With the pics and all the info you'll get better feedback, and it's easier to copy a link then the whole text

Like so: http://www.sailboatlistings.com/view/42258

And the 2nd one is probably this one: http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1978...s#.VnXD33UrJYM
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@ four winds:

May I add keel stepped mast -- as a preference?

Great list!
Thanks Lizzy. Yes, I prefer a keel stepped mast as well.

I've said many times I got a bit lucky to find the right boat for me, at my budget and use, on the first try. If I had had more money probably would have ended up on the wrong boat for a wandering vagabond.
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Re: What compares to a Pearson 32, 323?

You could also consider something like a Bristol 29.9

There is one available to give you an idea:

1977 Bristol Bristol 29.9 sailboat for sale in New York
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Re: What compares to a Pearson 32, 323?

What model diesel is the first one with 700 hrs?

If it is a 2000 series I would go for the older one with 1800 hrs.
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Why don't you simply post the links?

With the pics and all the info you'll get better feedback, and it's easier to copy a link then the whole text

Like so: 1982 Pearson 323 sailboat for sale in Michigan

And the 2nd one is probably this one: 1978 Pearson 323 Sloop Sail Boat For Sale - www.yachtworld.com
LOL! Darn you are good! One is sold and i believe is the one in Muskeegon i got a text today and the other one is in Wisconsin and i have spoken to the broker "Terry" matter of fact today, and i am supposed to go see it next week if the weather helps.

But, i keep hearing the advice of "buy the sailboat where you are going to use it" well, I am going to the Caribbean, i keep thinking that i should then buy the sailboat in the Caribbean ie, in Florida and take the lessons there? right?

It just doesn't make sense to buy it in Michigan when i am going to be in Florida?
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Thanks Lizzy. Yes, I prefer a keel stepped mast as well.

I've said many times I got a bit lucky to find the right boat for me, at my budget and use, on the first try. If I had had more money probably would have ended up on the wrong boat for a wandering vagabond.

But i read that those allow leakage around the mast and allows water to leak into the boat and down to the keel?

Take it easy i am not disputing anything, just regurgitating what i read.

Is that true?
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Re: What compares to a Pearson 32, 323?

I think that is an excellent rationale, especially if you are impatient to get going. Go to Florida, take the classes, look at boats, then buy when one that fits your budget pops up that has the major systems in good condition. I think you should be looking at boats under 30 feet with your budget, but you may find something in your desired size and price range of you are on the spot.
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But i read that those allow leakage around the mast
Yup, most of them do leak some (tho only a little and only under certain circumstances), and no matter how creative we get, it's hard to stop it completely. It's one of the subjects we love to discuss when we're enjoying too much wine and beer together

Everything has it's pro's and cons. Just like no matter what you do, whatever boat you end up with is a compromise.

But since I plan to go to where the coconuts are - which means around one month alone on the ocean - I went for keel stepped mast + fin keel + skeg hung rudder. Keel stepped mast wasn't a deal breaker, but a strong preference and I'm happy to report Lizzy Belle has one

Her rigging is also the heavy duty kind since she wasn't meant for sailing on the lakes (also hence her draft and bridge clearance or whatever that's called in English). Can't take her anywhere here in the Netherlands, haha!
Which is part of the reason I'm in Rotterdam, with an open connection to the sea.

Since you already paid a depost of $500 for your sailing lessons in Holland, you might as well start there and not throw away your money, methinks.
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