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Old 23-07-2016, 14:16   #16
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Thanks! Great suggestions. From what I can see so far, some of the Passport aft-cockpit deigns come close to what I had in mind. I can't find much in the way of floor-plan layout images online, however.
The Perry design is an excellent choice. I have been onboard one and it appeared well made. I saw another at a boat show in S.F. for around $100K.
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Yes, I've been on a Nauticat sloop. They are beautiful! And come with the price accordingly. It's not off the table, but slightly higher than I may be able to spend
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Old 23-07-2016, 14:18   #18
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Which model passport did you see at the SF show? I'm here in the bay area.
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Old 23-07-2016, 14:27   #19
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Re: What boats might fit these criteria?

I think in your size range, a 3 cabin cruiser would be what you want but you may have to compromise on the 2nd head to give you more choices, in other words, 3 cabins, 2 heads on a 40-43 foot boat will narrow your choices and eliminate many viable options. I know with our 41, 1 head is more than adequate plus we have a transom shower that we use more than the shower stall.....food for thought.

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Here are a couple of the versions of the Passport 40. There were a few I think. I liked the forward head in my 47 but disliked the Pullman berth. I would opt for the forward berth.
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Old 23-07-2016, 14:37   #21
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Which model passport did you see at the SF show? I'm here in the bay area.
I'm sorry...I didn't mean to have you understand that it was still for sale. It was at the last Sailexpo that was in Richmond.
Here is the boat... PASSPORT 40 sailboat specifications and details on sailboatdata.com
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If you don't mind an older boat could also have a look at Pierson 424 or 422, maybe a few feet larger also. You could find a Pierson 53 ft Ketch 150k or so, maybe less.
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ready to sail/Used Tayana 37 Go Any Where Sail Boat for Sale | Yachts For Sale | Yachthub
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Old 23-07-2016, 15:28   #24
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Huh, I was at that Richmond show. I must have missed that Passport.
Tom, what make is your 41'?
Those Nauticat 385s look sweet!
The Pearson's are interesting as well.
Catalina 400 mkII has some nice layouts, but I'm not certain of their seaworthiness - comparable to a Jeanneau?
So far, I think the Tartan 4300 comes closest, but that's some serious coin.
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Thanks for all your replies!
I'll look closer at that Jeanneau. I've been aboard one like it at a boat show.
I'm quite familiar with Mr. Neal's site Mahina, thank you. Been to one of his and his wife's seminars as well. Great people.

In fact, I asked him about open water cruising on Jeanneau's, Benateaus, Hunters, etc. Here was his reply:

"I have listed boats that from my 35 years and 250,000 miles experience
have made good, safe and comfortable offshore passage makers.

Hunter and Jeanneau may be popular production boats, but these boats were
designed as coastal cruisers and charter boats. When pressed into serious
offshore use, Hunters have become quite famous for losing rudders.

Jeanneaus are slightly better built, but their short keel (fore and aft
measurement) means that they do not heave to or forereach in storm
conditions. Although attractive for dockside living, these boats were designed for Med cruising, not for extended passage making."


By the same token, I've met captains that have solo circumnavigated on Jeanneaus, and know that more Bennateu's have done so just by their sheer numbers. I guess it depends on how you sail her and what conditions you run into.

I've heard of Hinckley, but never been on one. I'll need to look into those.

With 3 cabins, I see no reason 5 people can't comfortably sail on 40' boat. Done it many times. We're all family, so we are used to each other ;-)

As for cats, I've looked into that, and already know which models and designs interest me. In fact, they are my first choice, but the one's I'd be satisfied with are currently beyond budget.

Thanks again, and if anyone else has recommendations, I'm all ears! (or, I guess "all eyes" since I'm reading this ;-)
I think that you'ld get a 40ft cat in your $200k budget. Remember, asking price and reality are not necessarily the same thing. Good luck.
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Bavaria 40.

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Which 40` cats are you referring to?
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Re: What boats might fit these criteria?

Would you consider a mahe 36? Used they would probably be at the upper end of your $200k price range. A very fine example sold on CF in the mid 200s but that would be the upper end of the scale. With a hard bimini you can walk on and a stack pack, it's close to having in boom roller furling!

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The two master cabin version would get you two heads, but one of your five would be sleeping in the salon each night. Or, the charter versions replaced one of the heads with an additional cabin.

I sailed one to Cuba and back with four other full grown men, and we were very comfortable.

Also, thank you for a very detailed post on what you desired in a boat. Much better than the 'i want to bluewater, what should I buy' variety that usually shows up!

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Taswell 43|for sale

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http://www.devalk.nl/en/yachtbrokera...ASWELL-43.html

We could not find a 43 with non-teak decks like these, but our 49 is non-teak also, so we bought it 2 years ago in Annapolis.
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You should look at the Stevens 47 and Hylas 47 (same hull and basic layout). The boats have three staterooms, many have Yanmar engines, most have standard masts and booms, and are wonderfulb sea kindly passage makers. Prices vary from $100 to $200k depending on equipment and condition. They ate very well built. I think there are a couple listed for sale at the moment. Search Yacht world. If you decide you are really interested, there is a Facebook group you can join and members may show you their boats and help you find one of your own.
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