Cruisers Forum
 


Join CruisersForum Today

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 17-06-2013, 07:03   #1
Registered User
 
Companion's Avatar

Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: NT Australia for now
Boat: Davidson Caribbean 55'
Posts: 5
What are the cloths called laced inside the stanchions

I was always under the impression that the canvas cloths laced inside the stanchions were called lee cloths, but apparently not...what are they called ? Anyway, I'm busy making them for our next Pacific cruise and am looking at various designs. has anyone made them before and could give me some advice ?
__________________

__________________
Companion is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17-06-2013, 07:07   #2
Certifiable Refitter/Senior Wannbe
 
Wotname's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: South of 43 S, Australia
Boat: Van DeStat Super Dogger 31'
Posts: 7,333
Re: What are the cloths called laced inside the stanchions

They are lee clothes to me but maybe they are known as something else in other parts of the world .
__________________

__________________
All men dream: but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake in the day to find it was vanity: but the dreamers of the day are dangereous men, for they may act their dreams with open eyes, to make it possible. T.E. Lawrence
Wotname is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17-06-2013, 07:11   #3
Armchair Bucketeer
 
David_Old_Jersey's Avatar

Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 10,013
Images: 4
Re: What are the cloths called laced inside the stanchions

If I am thinking of the same thing as you!, in the UK they are called "Dodgers" - no doubt as that term is used in the USA for something else! (a sprayhood) likely another term used.......but nonetheless should help with your googles.



BTW they are attached outside the stanchions (and wires). Lee cloths are what stop you falling out of a bunk / seaberth!

Never made any though!
David_Old_Jersey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17-06-2013, 07:14   #4
Nearly an old salt
 
goboatingnow's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 13,649
Images: 3
Re: What are the cloths called laced inside the stanchions

the term lee cloths and dodgers seem to be interchangeable. Though as DOJ said this side lee cloths are generally on bunks

Ive made a few over the years , Ive used good quality acrylic canvas, in general without the PU coating ( no need for full water proofness)

Ive generally used good quality stainless grommets, put on with the anvil tool. fold and stitch the edges either one or two folds. When attaching them I have used cord and tiewraps, if using tiewraps ensure the sharp edges are safe. The drawback with tiewraps is if you need to remove them, its a one way trick with a snips.

If you have small lee cloth rails , that aids things, otherwise youll have to consider how the bottom edge ( and top edge) is supported/tied down, this often requires deck fittings, with all thee issues of penetrating the deck.

Ive seen some done by using a stainless steel wire in the top and bottom and that attached to a convenient stanchion. It can put a lot of pull on a stanchion though , many are just tied to the lifelines in whatever way is practical . I dont like them that much where they are just supported by stanchions and lifelines,

At sea they can get a lot of abuse from boarding water and I remain of the view they are best removed.

dave
__________________
Check out my new blog on smart boat technology, networking and gadgets for the connected sailor! - http://smartboats.tumblr.com
goboatingnow is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17-06-2013, 07:22   #5
Senior Cruiser

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: between the devil and the deep blue sea
Boat: a sailing boat
Posts: 17,314
Re: What are the cloths called laced inside the stanchions

In our boat, the ones inside the stanchions are called trunks. The ones outside (see David's) are called leeclothes.

@David: maybe dodger is the sprayhood over the companionway, elsewhere it is just a sprayhood (I think).

Now for the design:
- use quality canvas (Sunbrella type) and they will last,
- if you expect plenty of downwind sailing, consider making yours in 3 parts - to form a wrap-around for the whole cockpit area (= also from astern),
- in our ship, the side ones extend about 3' forward of the cockpit's fore end - this gives good protection when an odd wave comes from an odd angle,
- total overlap of our dodger / leecloth is then some 4 feet.
- you may like some pockets added on the cockpit side - our furling line is on one and a winch handle in the other,
- rescue orange is good choice for any small craft.

Dry, quiet and snug, that's the way we like it.

Cheers,
b.
__________________
barnakiel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17-06-2013, 07:25   #6
Nearly an old salt
 
goboatingnow's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 13,649
Images: 3
Re: What are the cloths called laced inside the stanchions

Quote:
In our boat, the ones inside the stanchions are called trunks.
Never heard that , always thought they were mens attire!

Dave
__________________
Check out my new blog on smart boat technology, networking and gadgets for the connected sailor! - http://smartboats.tumblr.com
goboatingnow is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17-06-2013, 07:26   #7
Armchair Bucketeer
 
David_Old_Jersey's Avatar

Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 10,013
Images: 4
Re: What are the cloths called laced inside the stanchions

Quote:
Originally Posted by barnakiel View Post
In our boat, the ones inside the stanchions are called trunks.
I am curious as to what "trunks" look like - and what purpose they serve (instead of or as well as a Dodger / Lee Cloth?).

A Google for "Yacht Trunks" reveals a lot of swimwear!
David_Old_Jersey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17-06-2013, 07:29   #8
Registered User
 
Companion's Avatar

Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: NT Australia for now
Boat: Davidson Caribbean 55'
Posts: 5
Re: What are the cloths called laced inside the stanchions

Thanks so much.... We have a solid stainless top rail and a timber toe rail..so I thought I could lace to stainless eyelet fittings screwed into the toe rail and lace all round (once I've finished the sewing and the hole punching).... take your advice about removing for the ocean passages though, although we don't seem to get too wet in the aft. Any idea of how far apart I should punch the eyelets ?
__________________
Companion is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17-06-2013, 07:29   #9
Nearly an old salt
 
goboatingnow's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 13,649
Images: 3
Re: What are the cloths called laced inside the stanchions

I cant think if Ive ever seen dodgers fitted to the inside of lifelines and stanchions

dave
__________________
Check out my new blog on smart boat technology, networking and gadgets for the connected sailor! - http://smartboats.tumblr.com
goboatingnow is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17-06-2013, 07:30   #10
Senior Cruiser
 
FSMike's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Bahamas/Florida
Boat: Solaris Sunstar 36' catamaran
Posts: 2,654
Images: 5
Re: What are the cloths called laced inside the stanchions

In the states I always heard them called weather cloths.
Like David, I heard lee cloths were to keep you in your bunk.
And in the states we call spray hoods dodgers.
__________________
Sail Fast Live Slow
FSMike is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17-06-2013, 07:33   #11
cat herder, extreme blacksheep
 
zeehag's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: furycame alley , tropics, mexico for now
Boat: 1976 FORMOSA yankee clipper 41
Posts: 17,777
Images: 56
Send a message via Yahoo to zeehag Send a message via Skype™ to zeehag
Re: What are the cloths called laced inside the stanchions

lee cloths are fro beds for crew to keep em in when rough seas bounce ye out of em,
weather cloths, for privacy..lol...and keeping the wind in cockpit down ...
dodger, aka spray hood....
zeehag is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17-06-2013, 07:34   #12
Nearly an old salt
 
goboatingnow's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 13,649
Images: 3
Re: What are the cloths called laced inside the stanchions

Quote:
In the states I always heard them called weather cloths.
actually that was the term I was trying to think of, not lee clothes. Round here though they are all dodgers.

dave
__________________
Check out my new blog on smart boat technology, networking and gadgets for the connected sailor! - http://smartboats.tumblr.com
goboatingnow is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17-06-2013, 07:41   #13
Senior Cruiser
 
Jim Cate's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: May 2008
Location: cruising SW Pacific
Boat: Jon Sayer 1-off 46 ft fract rig sloop strip plank in W Red Cedar
Posts: 11,465
Re: What are the cloths called laced inside the stanchions

My name for them is weather cloths, for the ones that matter are on the weather side of the boat, keeping spray off the deck/cockpit area. Lee cloths are for bunks and are useful on the leeward side, keeping the occupant off the deck.

We have weather cloths running from the stern up past the companionway, hung from stainless tubing rails. We've found that using light bungy cord for at least the lower attachments reduces the damage done to them if a big boarding sea should strike. Like most things, they have good and bad characteristics: they do keep much spray away, but inhibit visibility to windward when heeled. They also give a bit of privacy when at anchor... say for showers or whatever in the cockpit. Good place to mount sheet bags, too.

Cheers,

Jim
__________________
Jim and Ann s/v Insatiable II , lying Port Cygnet, Tasmania once again
Jim Cate is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 17-06-2013, 07:53   #14
Eternal Member
 
monte's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Australia
Boat: Lagoon 400
Posts: 3,650
Images: 1
Re: What are the cloths called laced inside the stanchions

its good practice to secure the lower section but fix the upper with breakable line in case of taking on seas
__________________
monte is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17-06-2013, 08:01   #15
Freelance Delivery Skipper..
 
boatman61's Avatar

Community Sponsor
Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: PORTUGAL
Posts: 20,217
Images: 2
pirate Re: What are the cloths called laced inside the stanchions

In the UK they are known as Spray Dodgers... idea is to keep any splashes into the cockpit to a minimum when sailing... also great wind breakers and excellent for nude sun bathing...
They go on the outside...
Spray Hood... self explanatory... goes over the top to protect from high flying spray...
Lee Cloth's... what you use when you have drawn the short straw on a very long tack...
__________________


Born To Be Wild
boatman61 is online now   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off




Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 18:25.


Google+
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.