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Old 24-08-2010, 11:41   #136
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Perfect Blue Water Boat

You're correct. There is no perfect blue water boat, but I think we all know what is not a blue water boat. Many of them grace the pages of our favorite sailing magazines. What really chaps me is that some of them are getting rave reviews by the magazines even though the reviewers should be having a hard time sleeping at night. I'd like to see more honesty through use of adjectives like "floating bathtub", "floating condominium", "great at the dock", etc.
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Old 24-08-2010, 13:12   #137
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I don't know which boat is the "best blue water cruising sailboat" simply because I have not cruised in every blue water boat out there. Although I know my Fantasia is nowhere near being the "bust blue water cruising sailboat" I love her anyway. However, if I was looking for another boat I would start with the Hans Christian, then a mid sized Pacific Seacraft, and finally the larger Baba.

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Old 24-08-2010, 14:10   #138
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You're correct. There is no perfect blue water boat, but I think we all know what is not a blue water boat. Many of them grace the pages of our favorite sailing magazines. What really chaps me is that some of them are getting rave reviews by the magazines even though the reviewers should be having a hard time sleeping at night. I'd like to see more honesty through use of adjectives like "floating bathtub", "floating condominium", "great at the dock", etc.
Very true of course. All of the sailing magazines, with the exception of Practical Sailor, are bought and paid for. You can always look at the Cruising World "Boat of the Year" awards and see that they correspond to advertising dollars. And you can see the current reputation of new Tartan quality and customer service has never been even mentioned in current reviews in the major magazines, because they are a big advertiser. They have to tread on thin ice to keep the business model working.
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Old 24-08-2010, 16:18   #139
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the best ever in life blue water sailboat is that in which you most enjoy cruising. is subjective, not an objective question, subject to each and every single opinion in this world and all others as well--each of us has an opinion regarding this topic, and each will be different. so, the correct answer is...ta daaaa---that boat in which you most enjoy cruising.
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Old 25-08-2010, 17:46   #140
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Any comments on the Moody 42 late 1980's vintage?

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Old 26-08-2010, 05:49   #141
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Moodys have a great name, but I don't know much about them. I'd like to hear tho'.
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Old 26-08-2010, 07:55   #142
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orion 50 tashing

Tashing at its peak produced for Gary Mull the ORION 50 using a 58 racing hull as base taking 8 foot off the aft deck which was 'just sticking out'.

She is fast for her weight; 36600 lbs but very stable as typical ketch.

centercockpit is low / safe and her lines for a cc are unmistakably sexy; hard to realize she is cc from a distance.

Her quality is truly amazing inside and hull has a encapsuled keel with 30% below the waterline.

Big engine working place as are her deck layout; a true cruiser which makes me smile when big sloops are trying to 'race' us

Unfortunately only 8 produced due to the death of Gary Mull; as a result Tashing started producing their own cc /touring yachts = Taswells also premium but not as fast........
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Old 26-08-2010, 08:29   #143
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Hey Xpets, That Orion is a sweet looking boat!! When were they made and are all 8 in service? At the risk of being nosy, what kind of ticket is on a boat like that?
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thanks; good looks he
as for ticket she is hugly undervalued due to fact 'brand' is not known alike Oyster etc..........half their price and much better built.

*i was 5 years in boatbuilding so am entiteld to an opinion
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Moody is a nice /simple built boat with nothing bad about her but nothing exiting either........my opinion for what it is worth.
sailing aliblity avarage but price (far too ) high due to branding and British heritage.

when you can afford her; good for you.
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Old 26-08-2010, 13:07   #146
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buy an Orion 50 , see yachtworld for details.......not mine but far better yacht for far less money
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Any thoughts on a cutter rigged Roberts 58?
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Old 20-09-2010, 22:33   #148
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A Ron Holland 43 is my choice. Like the Orion 50, few were made (13) but all were built to order on a semi custom basis. Ours is hull number 11 and a sweeter boat I could not have imagined.

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I must vote for the Bowman 46 as she delivered me safely across the Atlantic. Though I suppose the Deerfoot's make incredible cruisers.
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