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Old 13-03-2017, 21:13   #16
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Re: Viewing a boat by proxy

There are a LOT of candidate boats in the region on Craig's List:
https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/boa/6032247168.html
https://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/bod/6035048631.html
https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/boa/6036268390.html
https://seattle.craigslist.org/oly/boa/6038036998.html
https://bellingham.craigslist.org/boa/5995783006.html
https://skagit.craigslist.org/boa/5997366020.html
https://bellingham.craigslist.org/boa/5969104982.html

And I'm sure that quite a lot of them could be had for 1/2 or 2/3 of their asking price. Some for probably less than that. And there are plenty of other local for-sale resources worth perusing. Along with the option to simply wander around areas with lots of boats, & when you find one on your list that looks disused, track down the owner.
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Old 13-03-2017, 23:50   #17
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There are a LOT of candidate boats in the region on Craig's List:
https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/boa/6032247168.html
https://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/bod/6035048631.html
https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/boa/6036268390.html
https://seattle.craigslist.org/oly/boa/6038036998.html
https://bellingham.craigslist.org/boa/5995783006.html
https://skagit.craigslist.org/boa/5997366020.html
https://bellingham.craigslist.org/boa/5969104982.html

And I'm sure that quite a lot of them could be had for 1/2 or 2/3 of their asking price. Some for probably less than that. And there are plenty of other local for-sale resources worth perusing. Along with the option to simply wander around areas with lots of boats, & when you find one on your list that looks disused, track down the owner.
This is true, I have not fully exploited the more "local" methods as of yet.

I'll probably make a trip down to some of the marinas around here, and see if there are any boats on slips that might be able to be had.

Is this kosher though? To walk the marinas when you don't have a slip?
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Old 14-03-2017, 10:06   #18
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I have twice used a surveyor for a walk-though inspection and found the $200 to be very well spent.
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[QUOTE=Ryban;2346402]Is there a means by which to have a fellow sailor go look at a boat for me, as sort of a preliminary inspection?/QUOTE]

I've done this a few times here in Kingston for people who live a few hours away. At the very least, I can take a few hundred pictures, get the owner to open up a bit, and give my unbiased opinion. In one case the boat was really awful and overpriced, so I saved someone many hours of driving.

I've been there myself...drove to T.O. too many times to see boats that took 5 seconds to know they were misrepresented. Now if the owner won't send a few dozen pics, I won't waste my time.

If you are looking at a boat anywhere near Kingston ON, I'd be happy to go look, take pics, and share my opinion...no charge of course.
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Yeah. I left my job, and am taking my humble savings for a 2-3 year trip around the world (or as far as I can get).

More likely I'll stay with a friend on a month-to-month basis if the boat isn't already in a liveaboard location, until something can be arranged.

Boats that meet my perceived requirements and fall into my price range include:

- Contessa 26
- Tartan 27 & 30
- Cape Dory 27 & 30
- Albin Vega 27
- Bayfield 29
- Alberg 30
- Rawson 30
- Pearson Vanguard 32

So mostly small budget 30-50 year-old proven passage-makers.
Have you considered recording video of your adventure and posting a vlog....I'd watch!!!!
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Old 14-03-2017, 19:51   #21
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These should be some good reading for you (links below). Remember, great lakes boats are usually in much better condition, and a CDN dollar only costs about 75 cents US. Pick one for discussion!!!

$12.5k CDN ($9000 USD)
FS 1974 Contessa 26 | sailboats | Ottawa | Kijiji

$12k CDN:
27' Cheoy-Lee Offshore Sailboat | sailboats | Barrie | Kijiji

$6k cdn:
Alberg 30 | sailboats | Owen Sound | Kijiji


Hullmaster 27 | sailboats | Barrie | Kijiji


38' Bluewater Sailboat, Steel Hull | sailboats | London | Kijiji


32' Sailboat | sailboats | Oakville / Halton Region | Kijiji

This one is at the top of your budget, once you convert to USD:
http://www.kijiji.ca/v-sailboat/osha...ationFlag=true
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Old 14-03-2017, 20:28   #22
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Well, here is a Columbia 29, and it is right in my neighborhood. There are slips available around here and it is a good place to refit and practice with the channel and local islands to practice around. This one is nearly free because it needs so much though. If you think it is a possibility you might give the owner a call. It is a good, simple and strong hull, and chances are I'd guess the basic soundness of the hull is there. I personally would consider it a very good potential, but I do my own work and I have a network of friends and acquaintances in the local marinas to turn to.
https://ventura.craigslist.org/boa/6034297997.html

sure sad to see them just sit as a liveaboard for years!
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Well, here is a Columbia 29, and it is right in my neighborhood. There are slips available around here and it is a good place to refit and practice with the channel and local islands to practice around. This one is nearly free because it needs so much though. If you think it is a possibility you might give the owner a call. It is a good, simple and strong hull, and chances are I'd guess the basic soundness of the hull is there. It does say "good condition" so it is hard to tell from photos. I personally would consider it a very good potential, but I do my own work and I have a network of friends and acquaintances in the local marinas to turn to. If you are interested and I can help, let me know.
https://ventura.craigslist.org/boa/6034297997.html

here is previous listing:
https://ventura.craigslist.org/boa/6023467985.html

sure sad to see them just sit as a liveaboard for years!
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I had not heard of Kijiji, is it a Canadian thing?

I like that Bayfield. As it is, it does stand on the upper-end of my budget, but my total budget for the boat is about 20-30K. So I may be willing to spend more for something more "ready", if in the end it works out to about the same cost.

I haven't paid too close attention to boats on the great lakes as it would somewhat expensive to have them towed to an ocean. Another option would be to navigate out to the Atlantic, but it'd be quite the journey just to get "started". That said, if there's something I'm really eyeing in your neighborhood, I'll certainly take you up on your offer.

$1250 sounds like a 2-year project. I'm a bit dubious because there are more pictures of the surroundings than there are the boats. Unless he forgot a zero.
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I had not heard of Kijiji, is it a Canadian thing?

I like that Bayfield. As it is, it does stand on the upper-end of my budget, but my total budget for the boat is about 20-30K. So I may be willing to spend more for something more "ready", if in the end it works out to about the same cost.

I haven't paid too close attention to boats on the great lakes as it would somewhat expensive to have them towed to an ocean. Another option would be to navigate out to the Atlantic, but it'd be quite the journey just to get "started". That said, if there's something I'm really eyeing in your neighborhood, I'll certainly take you up on your offer.

$1250 sounds like a 2-year project. I'm a bit dubious because there are more pictures of the surroundings than there are the boats. Unless he forgot a zero.
Not sure why post duplicated itself there, but it was listed earlier and has a few more pictures there. Yes, it's a project boat.
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Have you considered recording video of your adventure and posting a vlog....I'd watch!!!!
I most definitely would be, though I haven't settled on a particular style. I like the styles of WhiteSpotPirates and of course the Delos crew. I have a background in photography that I hope to exploit to its fullest.
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I can second the Tartan 30. Owned one for 12 years and took it to Bermuda
fron Ct (about 600+ miles offshore thru Gulfstream). Mine was Competition version with taller mast and deeper keel, Very stiff boat- handles seas very well. If buying a another one I would look for a diesel refit ( from Atomic 4). Came in 2 versions- side or Aft galley, I liked aft galley. The boat design is Offshore capable (even cross oceans.) Depends on condition and skill of skipper/ crew. Shop condition-equipment not age.
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If buying a another one I would look for a diesel refit ( from Atomic 4).
A lot of these boats that I like are equipped with the Atomic 4, and I've been wondering how much this should influence my decision-making process, and whether or not I should stick with a good-running Atomic 4, or replace it with a diesel should such a boat come into my hands.

How much more should one be willing to pay for a diesel version of the same boat -- assuming both engines are of equal quality.
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I notice the alberg 30 on your list. like the yankee to the tartan example, Albergs turn up under different names also, for example, Whitby, ericson 30, and pearson 30. the pearson, ericson, and columbias of a certain era were very incestuous, some even shared a mold, some were sued for windows looking too much like another's signature, but all had a design by Carl Alberg or flagrant copy and were basically 30 feet long. Using these terms may produce some more results in your search. have you looked at Allied? they are strong boats from the era you are interested in.
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I should correct my previous post. The alberg design did not appear in pearson or ericson until 35 feet. unless you count the triton/ariel. the Rhodes designed pearson vanguard 33 and the king designed ericson 30 have similar underbody style to Alberg Designs, but they are not exactly "flagrant" copies, and they may be of interest to you. The columbia 29 also shares alot of underbody style, but is a S&S design, also worth looking at if you like these types. All are in keeping with older proven passagemaking criteria and may increase your available options. Also I see no reason why Bristol 27 would not be a consideration. Brute build, alberg design, often ridiculously cheap.
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